Harry, Draco and bathroom/ A couple of theories - Snape

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> > Amiable Dorsai: 
> > Then Harry would, like as not, be dead or insane and Draco would 
be
> > hoping Azkaban would keep him safe from Voldemort.  
> 
> Magpie:
> Being hit by a Crucio doesn't make you either.  The Longbottoms are 
> a special case, having been put under longterm Crucio by two 
experts 
> at the spell.  If Harry's spell hadn't worked and Draco's had 
(which 
> in itself isn't a given) the more likely result would be that Harry 
> would have been hit with a lot of pain that would then stop.  
That's 
> the more common result of a successful Crucio that we've seen. I 
> think that's what Harry was avoiding in his mind.

Alla:

I don't think we know what Harry was avoiding in his mind. I think it 
is also valid to speculate that he was avoiding precisely that - 
being dead or insane.

Why? Just speculation of course, but despite of more common results 
of succesful Crucio, Harry had seen the **worst** results of the 
crucio, and when it is directed against him, I tend to think that he 
would see in his mind the worst results, not what average Crucio can 
do.

If the gun is directed at me and I am somehow able to do something to 
prevent the shot, my first thought would be that I am protecting 
myself from being killed, not from some sort of easier wound.


 

> Magpie:
> Right.  But just as Draco has responsibility for everything he did 
> in the bathroom, so does Harry.  The fact that he was the one on 
the 
> defensive doesn't mean anything he does is the same as anything 
> else, which presumably is why he continues to feel unusual twinges 
> of guilt that he doesn't want.

Alla:

Well, yeah, but how to put it? In my view in the books there is very 
often a way a characters can have done something better in their 
actions, but it does not mean to me that because of that the action 
is always deserving of blame.

Like as I said before - the blame that I put on Harry here is wanting 
to try this spell before the bathroom scene. So, of course the 
horrific results of the spell he used should make him feel guilty. 
That is good for him to make him grow, etc. But at the same time, I 
stand by the idea that despite those horrific results what he did was 
a self defense, but as a result of his previous stupidity - sure, he 
should feel guilty IMO.