Resurrection (sort of)

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 162556

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Constance Vigilance" 
<ConstanceVigilance at ...> wrote:
 
CV: 
. sigh...mumbles something along the lines of .... canon .... 
> books .... not-canon .... whatever

Geoff:
<teacher mode>
Do speak up and don't mumble,,,,
</teacher mode>

CV: 
> I give you .... horses pulling carriages. Not *invisible* horses 
> as it quite clearly says in the books, but clearly, horses. But 
> we've gone over this a hundred times. The movie is not allowed on 
> this list for a very good reason. It is not canon. In fact, it 
> *violates* canon at times. And JKR's input into the movie, while 
> kindly accepted, is not the final word. She can be overridden 
> whenever the director desires. Like when there is a cool special 
> effect which is already in the can. I'm just saying.

Geoff:
What have invisible horses (or more accurately Thestrals) got to do 
with this discussion? To echo your remark, I don't understand this 
comment...

I am perfectly aware that we don't usually want film comment on the 
group. I have been on the group for nearly three and a half years and 
I believe I coined the phrase "the medium that dare not speak its 
nsme" (with acknowledgements to Oscar Wilde).

However, there are situations where comparison with the films is 
necessary to underline a point. JKR and Steven Kloves both emphasised 
in their joint interview how much they had worked together and 
cooperated and mentioned that this matter of not intruding on certain 
areas had arisen. I think, in the circumstances, if Quirrell was 
alive - which I personally don't believe - she would have stopped 
that piece of screenplay.
 
Geoff (earlier): 
> > Also, is he is still around, where has he been for the 
> > last five years? 
 
> CV: where is he? I'm glad you asked! He is doing background work 
for 
> Dumbledore, of course! I have my ideas where he most probably is. 
> I'm betting somewhere in Scandinavia near Durmstrang. And don't 
> point me to the Lexicon. In spite of all the nice research people 
> have done, Durmstrang is in Scandinavia. JKR said so.
> 
> Why is he there? He is recruiting trolls and Durmstrang students. 
> And working off his unicorn karma.

Geoff:
OK, show me the canon for that theory about him.

Geoff (earlier): 
> And is he likely to seek to be used again by 
> > Voldemort when he had been so ruthlessly abandoned?

CV: 
> I'm sorry? I don't understand this comment. The whole point is 
> that Voldemort thinks he is dead. 

Geoff:
Perfectly clear. Quirrell himself reveals his deep loyalty to 
Voldemort in "The Philosopher's Stone" so, after Voldemort flees 
possibly to save himself, our misguided turban-wearing friend might 
have gone off to try and get back in with his hero. It might come as 
a surprise to Voldemort but, if - if he is alive, I really can't see 
him working for Dumbledore.