How will Snape come back?

[chrusotoxos]

No: HPFGUIDX 162626


hi wynnleaf, thank you for your answer.

I agree with you on most points, and I'll just give two quick thoughts because it's late here 
and I'm going to bed (yawns).

first, let's take boromir. I agree that he is the one growing emotionally because of his 
death, but Aragorn grows too. If I remember correctly, this is the first time that Aragorn 
accept his inheritance and behave like the king he is. He doesn't deny the truth when 
Boromir calls him 'my king'. So, because of the death of another, he's forced to look into 
himself.

second, I don't think there's a mutual exclusion between forgiving Snape and Snape dying. 
Harry could understand the truth at the last moment, and think how horribly he would feel 
knowing that he had distrusted him all along. I mean, I totally agree that Harry has to 
discover his Love Power on Snape before he can fight LV properly, but this, imo, doesn't 
imply Snape surviving for a variety of reasons.

Umph, look at the time. And tomorrow is Monday. Good night!

chrus

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "wynnleaf" <fairwynn at ...> wrote:
> Let's use LOTR's Boromir and the Major in Last of the Mohicans as
> examples.  In both cases,  the character who dies is on the good side,
> but dislikes or is in competition with the protagonist.  The character
> ultimately comes to the aide of others also on the good side and gives
> his life, in Boromir's case apparently sorry for his earlier actions.  
> 
> The big difference in those two stories and HP, is neither the Aragorn
>  or Nathaniel hated the other character, and thus did not need to deal
> with forgiveness and hatred of their own, in order to complete their
> own mission.
> 
> However, JKR has shown that Harry's great power is his ability to
> love.  She also appears, in her interview comments, well satisfied
> that Harry now hates Snape more than ever.  She specifically had Harry
> think in OOTP that if there's one thing he'd *never* do, it would be
> to forgive Snape.  Yeah, right.  It seems fairly clear that it's not
> so much Snape being set up to receive redemption, as Harry being set
> up to have to forgive and deal with his hate.  Snape may certainly
> have to deal with *his* hatred as well (I hope he does), but the
> protagonist is Harry, so the development that *he* has to accomplish
> is even more important.
> 
> I don't think that JKR is going to have Harry face Voldemort to
> destroy him, while *still* filled with his hatred of Snape. 
> Therefore, she'll more likely find a way for Harry to forgive Snape
> *before* he faces Voldemort.
> 
> Further, Dumbledore said over and over that he "trusts" Snape.  I
> think JKR will probably have Harry not only have to *forgive* Snape,
> but *trust* him as well -- because that's what he refused to do all
> along.  That's going to be a big hurdle for Harry.  But my guess is
> that it's the Great Big Thing Harry will have to achieve before he
> gets to confront Voldemort.  Oh, yes, he'll have to find and destroy
> those horcruxes, but that's more just adventure, it's not character
> development.  Forgiving and trusting Snape is part of the character
> development Harry will have to achieve before facing Voldemort.
> 
> So if he's going to have to forgive Snape *and* learn to trust him,
> all before he confronts Voldemort, then there's not much likelihood of
> a repentence/forgiveness/death scene a la Boromir.  
> 
> That doesn't mean that JKR won't still kill off Snape in a final
> confrontation.  But hopefully, by then Harry would really be sorry to
> see him die, because by then he'd see the *full* Snape (the strengths
> as well as the weaknesses), not just the card-board cut-out villian he
> assumes Snape is.
> 
> wynnleaf, who really hopes JKR won't kill Snape.  Once Harry forgives
> and trusts Snape, there's not much reason for Snape to die.
>