Harry Draco and bathroom.

sistermagpie belviso at attglobal.net
Tue Dec 12 15:41:16 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 162702

Carol:
> > the DEs don't cast Crucios in battle. 

Eggplant:
> Bellatrix did. Voldemort did.

Magpie:
No, they didn't. Carol's point is that they cast Crucio's to torture 
other people, not in battle. Bellatrix isn't battling with Neville, 
she's teasing him, just as Voldemort is tormenting Harry. It's Harry 
and Draco who throw the spell when they're agitated and panicked.

Eggplant:
 It's just a
> pity Harry hadn't killed him as he had every moral right to do, if 
he
> had Dumbledore would still be alive.

[snip]
If I were Harry and thought a defensive
> spell was 98% likely to be successful and a offensive spell 99% I
> would not hesitate to take the offensive and if a literary hero 
were
> to make the other choice I would feel nothing but contempt for 
him. 
> 
> > Harry doesn't want to kill anybody, not even Voldemort.

Magpie:
But, err, to be frank...if anyone actually followed the rules for 
living you consistently post they'd have a hard time leaving the 
house without ending up in jail. Usually when someone sees any act 
of violence he might be inclined to commit as not only morally right 
but something for which not a jury in the world would convict him, 
he's a criminal (and there actually are juries in the world who 
would convict him). Harry didn't even reason the way you are here at 
the time. He saw no reason to take Draco out permenantly and wasn't 
trying to do so. He didn't, imo, have a moral "right" to take Draco 
out at all, any more than Draco had a moral right to take him or 
Dumbledore out.

I also think that Draco's not being killed will turn out to be the 
bigger advantage. As will not killing Peter. One that Voldemort 
can't see coming because he follows the mindset you're laying out 
here. The kind of mindset that, imo, eventually weakens your own 
side, no matter what the short term advantages are. It's not about 
being wussy, it's about good having more imagination and the values 
of the good actually making them stronger than the values of the 
bad. Compassion isn't a weakness.

-m





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