The Cabinet Plan...again (was:Re: The UV (was ESE, DDM, OFH, or Grey?)

[horridporrid03]

No: HPFGUIDX 162799

> >>a_svirn:
> I don't think we can dismiss that as bragging, though. Draco's 
> bragging usually fails to impress his audience; in fact, the effect 
> it often produces is quite the opposite one. Yet the old Ollivander 
> was certainly impressed. Whatever Draco showed him, it must have    
> been sufficiently convincing...
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Right, but it's what Draco *showed* Borgin that did the trick.  
Borgin was already frightened and changing his tune when Draco 
followed through with the Fenrir threat. (The bragging wasn't the 
powerful bit.)

> >>a_svirn:
> I concede that Draco might not have been technically lying.        
> <snip>
> But it seems to me that he wasn't exactly honest either. He'd known 
> very well that Grayback was likely to come.

Betsy Hp:
But that's an assumption.  And I'm not sure what you're basing it 
on.  Why should Draco have felt Fenrir was likely to come? 

> >>a_svirn:
> Oh, yes, Dumbledore said that he's not a killer. But what does it 
> mean? He didn't say, "Draco, Draco, you are not a murderer",        
> because they both knew that Draco did stoop to murder.

Betsy Hp:
Who did Draco murder?  Also, I think you've got the gradations of the 
words wrong.  One can be a killer without being a murderer (a 
soldier, for example).  But one cannot be a murderer without being a 
killer.  For someone to murder they've had to kill.

> >>a_svirn:
> What did he actually say to him, then? That he was no good as a    
> Voldemort's hit-man and would be much better off under the Order's 
> protection? In that case Draco's lowering his wand would mean only 
> admitting his own limitations. A sure sign of growing-up, but       
> little else, I am afraid.

Betsy Hp:
And yet, Draco proved himself well able to be Voldemort's hitman.  He 
had Dumbledore dead to rights.  So Draco doesn't lower his wand 
because he's in a weak position.  That he's in a position of 
strength, a position that someone who *was* a killer could have 
operated quite comfortably from, is what makes Draco's lowered wand 
so powerful.  Powerful enough that if effects Harry.

Betsy Hp