The UV (was ESE, DDM, OFH, or Grey?)

susanbones2003 rkdas at charter.net
Fri Dec 15 12:32:54 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 162805

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Jen D. wrote:
> > <snip> Has it been mentioned that Snape's vow creates the sort of
> bond that Harry has with Wormtail. I mean, Snape did work to save
> Draco. Mayhap that will mean something when it gets down to the 
bone.
> <snip>
> 
> Carol responds;
> Hi, Jen. If you're asking whether Snape's vow to protect Draco in
> itself creates a bond similar to the life debt, I don't think so. 
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> 
> So I think that Draco owes Snape a huge debt, whether or not that 
debt
> creates the same sort of bond between them as a Life Debt. (I don't
> think it does because of the UV; whatever Snape's motives, if Draco
> had died from Sectumsempra, he might have died, too, for failing to
> protect Draco to the best of his ability.) Still, even if the UV
> negates what might otherwise have been a Life Debt, I think and hope
> that Draco will realize how much he owes to Snape and how much Snape
> risked for his sake. 

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> If you're interested in this idea, Magpie and I discussed it briefly
> in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/149876 and 
the
> surrounding posts.
> 
> Carol, hoping that this idea is what you had in mind


Hi Carol,
Actually this discussion, as simple as it seems, makes me wonder (as 
it often does) exactly how the rules of JKR's world work. The debt 
that was created when Harry spared Wormtail seems to hinge on the 
fact that Wormtail realizes how he has been spared. Can we say that 
much of Draco? He is very good at re-writing events to suit himself 
and he may well not recognize what Snape did in some many instances 
as any sort of extrordinary actions (as Wormtail certainly did, 
witness his fawning gratitude...). I thank you for pointing out we 
don't know exactly what an unbreakable vow means in this instance 
although it doesn't seem possible that it couldn't create a life 
debt, when someone agrees to put his own life on the line to protect 
yours, but we just don't know. I don't think Snape is the sort that 
would try to prode Draco into understanding they have a life-debt 
relationship. He never seemed to like Draco much at all except for 
the pain he could cause Harry. I can see him bullying Draco into 
realizing they have an alliance of sorts. But thanks for exploring 
this with me a bit. I will go to your discussion with Magpie. 
Jen D. off to make the lunches...






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