[HPforGrownups] Draco and Dumbledore on the Tower WAS: Re: DDM!Harry and ...

puduhepa98 at aol.com puduhepa98 at aol.com
Mon Dec 18 04:11:48 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 162886

> Magpie:
> I don't think so, no. The scene's not written  that way. To show 
that Draco 
> needs to try to kill Dumbledore so  that we see he's going to do 
it, and then 
> show a change when he's  looking him in the eye. a beat of 
confusion, for a 
> start. Draco's  already avoiding the murder when he gets into the 
Tower. If 
> Draco  had that kind of revelatory moment in the Tower not only 
would we as  
> readers see it, but so would Dumbledore. And Dumbledore would talk  
about it. 
> Instead Dumbledore is confident Draco can't kill from the  moment 
he sees 
> him.

>Alla:

>Draco did turn the  wand towards the Dumbledore though, before he 
lowered it, so to me this is  exactly it - the moment where Draco 
starts to be ready to kill and finds  himself incapable of it.

>I think that what Dumbledore is doing may be  not even characterised 
as lying, but expressing his hopes of the sort - NOT  what Draco is 
but what Draco *can* be, namely not a killer.

>So,  yes, I am not buying that Draco comes to Tower not ready to kill 
Dumbledore,  I think that he has every intention to do just that and 
his want pointed at  Dumbledore indicates just that, but Dumbledore's 
words push him into not  killing.

IMO of course.
 
Nikkalmati:
 
I tend to take Alla's point here, in that what DD is saying is: "Draco your  
are not a murderer" {yet}.  He is warning Draco he is  about to cross a 
threshold that he has not crossed before, and he will not be  able to go back.  
Draco must have thought he was going to kill DD or  he would not have rushed up to 
the Tower by himself.     However,  when DD is unable to fight, Draco has the 
opportunity to reflect  on how he really feels.  Even without DD's 
persuasion, he probably would  not have killed DD (at least not until the DEs arrived 
and pressured him to do  it).  Note he did not immediately kill DD when he could 
have killed  him at once.  The talk was all unnecessary from Draco's side, 
but he  was unwilling to kill from the moment DD was unarmed.    Was  this a 
dawning sense of morality or cowardace? I think we are supposed to  take it as a 
dawning sense of morality.
 
Nikkalmati  



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