[HPforGrownups] Draco and Dumbledore on the Tower WAS: Re: DDM!Harry and ...
puduhepa98 at aol.com
puduhepa98 at aol.com
Mon Dec 18 04:11:48 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 162886
> Magpie:
> I don't think so, no. The scene's not written that way. To show
that Draco
> needs to try to kill Dumbledore so that we see he's going to do
it, and then
> show a change when he's looking him in the eye. a beat of
confusion, for a
> start. Draco's already avoiding the murder when he gets into the
Tower. If
> Draco had that kind of revelatory moment in the Tower not only
would we as
> readers see it, but so would Dumbledore. And Dumbledore would talk
about it.
> Instead Dumbledore is confident Draco can't kill from the moment
he sees
> him.
>Alla:
>Draco did turn the wand towards the Dumbledore though, before he
lowered it, so to me this is exactly it - the moment where Draco
starts to be ready to kill and finds himself incapable of it.
>I think that what Dumbledore is doing may be not even characterised
as lying, but expressing his hopes of the sort - NOT what Draco is
but what Draco *can* be, namely not a killer.
>So, yes, I am not buying that Draco comes to Tower not ready to kill
Dumbledore, I think that he has every intention to do just that and
his want pointed at Dumbledore indicates just that, but Dumbledore's
words push him into not killing.
IMO of course.
Nikkalmati:
I tend to take Alla's point here, in that what DD is saying is: "Draco your
are not a murderer" {yet}. He is warning Draco he is about to cross a
threshold that he has not crossed before, and he will not be able to go back.
Draco must have thought he was going to kill DD or he would not have rushed up to
the Tower by himself. However, when DD is unable to fight, Draco has the
opportunity to reflect on how he really feels. Even without DD's
persuasion, he probably would not have killed DD (at least not until the DEs arrived
and pressured him to do it). Note he did not immediately kill DD when he could
have killed him at once. The talk was all unnecessary from Draco's side,
but he was unwilling to kill from the moment DD was unarmed. Was this a
dawning sense of morality or cowardace? I think we are supposed to take it as a
dawning sense of morality.
Nikkalmati
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