Snape and Umbridge and abuse again WAS: Re: Bad Writing? (was: JKR and the boys)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 162918

> Bruce Alan Wilson wrote:
> > Anent Snape, I don't see that he's abusive.  Mean, yes.  Unfair, 
yes.  But
> > abusive?  No.   
>

Bart: 
> 	So, purposefully destroying a student's work to ensure that 
he fails is 
> NOT abusive?

Alla:

Oh, that's just you know - the understandable revenge. After all 
teacher should be allowed to exercise revenge on those weaker than 
him. :)

How about threatening to kill student's toad? How about assigning 
the detention to that student to make him **cut toads* ( 
paraphrase)? Nah, that is just what Snape needed to be done at that 
point and that is just lucky coincidence for him that **Neville** of 
all people, whose pet is toad and who is terrified of Snape as it 
is, was serving detention under Snape. Subtlety of the master of 
psychological abuse indeed as far as I am concerned, Umbridge is far 
less elegant than Severus dear, even if she goes much further in 
physical abuse land than him IMO.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/148046

Alla,

who maybe one day will understand the argument how the fact that 
there are much worse abusers than Snape in both real world and 
fiction makes Snape not just **lesser** abuser, but not abuser at 
all.