Snape and Umbridge and abuse again/ Ending for Snape

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 Julie:
> I don't remember that quote ever coming up in any discussion
> about Snape's loyalty to Dumbledore, but maybe I missed it.
> In any case, how culpable Snape is or isn't for his own
> actions has no relation whatsoever to his goodness or badness
> or loyalty or lack thereof. Culpable simply means guilty or
> or blameworthy. One's amount of culpability for a crime is
> in no way related to the *magnitude* of the crime. But in
> JKR's world culpability *is* related to one's ability to
> feel and give love, of which Voldemort has none.
<SNIP>
> Julie, hoping Alla is no longer amazed at this discounting
> of "evidence" as Snape's culpability gives us no clue about
> his loyalties at all.
>

Alla:

I am afraid still am Julie :) Think about it - more culpable than
Voldemort. Yes, we don't know which crimes she is talking about, but
this quote implies to me very strongly that because Snape knew love,
his crimes in some aspects are larger than Voldemort, who is as JKR
called him "psychopath".

To me that implies as well that Snape crimes in some aspects are
more horrible than Voldemort's.

But you know, probably amazed is the wrong word, since this is
indeed an interpretation, so I will say surprised at your
interpretation, that's all.


Cassie:  I never got the impression that Harry was afraid to go to 
his first Occlumency lesson with Snape. I think he just dreaded 
having to spend extra time with the man because he doesn't like him 
(and visa versa). In fact, i don't think Harry's EVER been afraid of 
Snape.

Alla:

He does not show it as much as Neville, that is for sure. Harry is 
stronger, but I cannot interpret these quotes any other way as 
rather subtle showing by JKR that Snape harmed Harry as well:


"Wondering what on earth was doing here, he jumped when Snape's cold
voice came out of the corner.
"Shut the door behind you, Potter."
Harry did as he was told with the horrible feeling that he was
imprisoning himself as he did so." -OOP, paperback, p.529


"Snape pulled out his wand from an inside pocket of his robes and
Harry tensed in his chair, but Snape merely raised the wand to his
temple and placed its tip into the greasy roots of his hair" - OOP,
paperback, p.533.