Snape and Umbridge and abuse again/ Ending for Snape

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 162971

> Magpie:
> Given what Occlumency is, I can't honestly see how one would teach 
> it without ever getting into someone's mind. The point is that the 
> person doing Occlumency is trying to block you, and since they 
don't 
> yet know the skill, the person is going to get into their mind at 
> first. Teaching Occlumency without the violation of someone in your 
> mind seems to me like imagining someone teaching you how to bat 
> without your ever striking out. Unless you already have the skill, 
> you're going to miss sometimes.  It's no different than Lupin 
> actually letting a boggart loose to turn into a fear to practice 
> Patronuses.
> 
> [Thanks to Pippin for providing actual canon of Dumbledore 
referring 
> to this opening of the mind as part of the teaching]


Alla:

Uh, hate to spend my fifth post of the day on this, but that is not 
what I meant. Yes of course, without trying to enter in somebody's 
mind Occlumency ceases to become such, but I thought that in your 
post you were arguing that ""feeling weakened"" after Occlumency's 
lessons - was a given and that I disagree with. Snape may have had to 
enter Harry's mind, but I disagree that Snape's way of entering 
Harry's mind was the only one possible ( I mean it is possible of 
course, but we don't know that IMO)

As to canon that Pippin's provided, personally I really hope that 
this was an awkwardly construed sentence and it does not mean what it 
looks like, otherwise DD does not come out very good here in my 
opinion .