DD and Delores (Was: Bad Writing?)
justcarol67
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 21 17:09:34 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 163007
Lupinlore wrote:
> > But she wasn't. When Umbridge's abuse of Harry began the Ministry
had not yet put her in charge of Hogwarts, nor even expanded her
powers. Once again, DD stands by and tacitly consents to Harry being
abused. Thus, abuse being approved by the "epitome of goodness," is
approved. At least in the message which I don't think JKR intends to
send.
Carol responds:
I'd still like to see evidence that Dumbledore knew what was happening
in Umbridge's detentions, which I do see as abuse. Harry wasn't seeing
DD face to face and he refused to report the incidents to McGonagall.
There was no gossip in the school about the detentions (no one but HRH
and Lee Jordan, who received a similar detention, seems to know about
them, and the schoolboy code will prevent Lee and his friends, the
Twins, from snitching on Umbridge. Instead, Lee gets revenge with the
Nifflers.)
Yes, we have Hermione's statement way back in SS/PS that DD knows
almost everything that happens in the school, but how? He's not
omniscient, and I'm sure he's not spying on his teachers in their
classrooms or offices. There are no portraits (or ghosts or even
Poltergeists) to witness what Umbridge is doing to Harry, only those
foul kittens gamboling on their plates. And they're not likely to
report dear Dolores's actions to Albus Dumbledore.
Again, Dumbledore can't be blamed for not acting on what he doesn't
know about, and I see no way he could know about what goes on in
Umbridge's detentions. Now he did know, thanks to Snape, that Umbridge
was trying to use Veritaserum on Harry and that Snape had provided her
with fake Veritaserum. And he can't help but be aware of the
Educational Decrees, which are not in his power to revoke because
they're Ministry approved. He lets the other teachers and the students
undermine them--and, with the exception of Trelawney, they do a
superb job of it. But the detentions? How could he possibly know about
them given Harry's silence on the matter and the absence of a portrait
or other spy to report to him?
Carol, just asking for a little canon evidence for DD's awareness of
Umbridge's cruel detentions
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