Broken potionvial WAS: Re: Bad Writing? (was: JKR and the boys)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 163278

> > Alla:
> > 
> > Huh? So Harry should have realised that he does not need a good 
> > grade for well done work?
> 
> Pippin:
> He knows the potion was made correctly. He knows that his future
> progress depends  on passing his OWLS, not on his classwork grade.
> What does he need the grade for, except to show off  or as a stamp 
of 
> approval?

Alla:

I do not remember the suggestion that everyday grades should be 
eliminated for Hogwarts fifth years. What does he need the grade 
for? Same as every other student needs their grade for, to know that 
they are doing well in preparation for their tests.


 
> 
> Alla:
> > Where in canon it is shown that Harry craves Snape approval as a 
> > person rather than  that he expects as **any** student to get a 
good 
> > grade for good work?
> > 
> > Isn't it a fairly reasonable expectation for any student to have?
> 
> Pippin:
> He doesn't crave Snape's approval, he craves everyone's approval. 
It's
> not a realistic expectation, but neither was thinking that 
everything
> about the Wizarding World was going to be better than the Dursleys.
><SNIP>

Alla:

I understood your argument that Harry craves Snape approval among 
other males. So does he or does he not craves Snape approval, Pippin 
or does he just want to be treated fairly by every teacher?


Pippin:
> Is it a reasonable expectation that a Slytherin teacher would treat
> anyone fairly? I wouldn't hold my breath. Life is unfair. People 
are unfair, 
> especially those who don't idealize fairness. 
<SNIP>

Alla:

Wow, so are you saying that every non Slytherin student should come 
to Hogwarts expecting that he or she would never get a fair grade 
from Slytherin teacher?

Pippin:
 Dumbledore can't fix
> that, and he doesn't pretend to try. And if you hate him for it, 
then
> I imagine you understand ESE!Lupin at last. :)

Alla:

We  will talk after book 7, Pippin and then I will say everything I 
want to say on the subject of ESE!Lupin. :) 


Alla, who is shudderring to think what grade Snape would have given 
Harry if by some unlucky stars he was allowed to grade their OWLS.