Broken potionvial and Harry expectations WAS: Re: Bad Writing?

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 30 21:59:38 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 163310

> Pippin:
> When has he wanted to be treated fairly by anybody but
> Snape? IIRC, he never thinks it's unfair that Lockhart chooses him 
for 
> every demonstration, he doesn't  think it's unfair that Trelawney
> keeps using him as an object, he only wishes that McGonagall
> favored her own the way Snape does. (Of course the joke is on 
> Harry, there. McGonagall does favor her own students, but as 
> her favoritism takes the form of higher expectations, it doesn't 
> make Harry's life any easier.)
> <SNIP>

Alla:

When did Harry ever knew that he did well in Lockhart or Trelawney 
class and that his well due good grade was withheld from him?

Trelawney uses him, yes and he does not like it at all AFAIK.


> > Pippin:
> > > Is it a reasonable expectation that a Slytherin teacher would
treat
> > > anyone fairly? I wouldn't hold my breath. Life is unfair.
People
> > are unfair,
> > > especially those who don't idealize fairness.
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > Alla:
> >
> > Wow, so are you saying that every non Slytherin student should
come
> > to Hogwarts expecting that he or she would never get a fair
grade
> > from Slytherin teacher?
>
> Pippin:
> Why be so general? Slytherins aren't noted for fairness, that's
all.
> Harry knows that from what the Hat says in its first song. Ron
warns
> him that Snape is said to favor his own students. Harry doesn't
> know that he's going to be the special target of Snape's
unfairness,
> but he does know that the wizarding world tolerates unfairness
> and Snape's in particular.
>

Alla:

Because that is how I read your argument Pippin. After all life is
unfair, yes? And expect that God forbid, Slytherin teacher would
treat you well is too much? So, isn't it reasonable that every non-
Slytherin student should have such expectations?
But I suppose what you really mean is that Harry and Harry only
should **not** expect fair grades from Snape and this how it should
be, yes?

Is that the correct reading of your argument? That Harry is the one
to blame for daring to expect a good grade for potion well done.

Sorry, but I find this mind boggling. It is your right to hold this
view of course, it is my right to think of this argument as
ridiculous.

JMO,

Alla, who thinks that all students have a right to get good grades
for job well done.







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