Broken potionvial and Harry expectations WAS: Re: Bad Writing?

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No: HPFGUIDX 163321

> Pippin:
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> I  said that IMO, Harry wanted a good grade as a mark of approval,
> and that it galled him to have Snape's approval withheld unfairly
> because he wants approval so much. Since he doesn't admit to
> himself that he wants it, he can't even consider whether he's
> being  realistic  trying to get it. 
> 
>  I don't blame him for that, but it's not a constructive behavior, 
IMO.

Alla:

Well, OK, you do not blame him for that, but you still think that 
his behaviour is wrong, yes? I mean **not constructive** is close 
enough to **wrong** in meaning, yes?

So, I do not see much difference, frankly.

And I refuse to think for one second that there is something wrong 
in Harry's behaviour, when he expects good grade. That is of course 
since I also do not buy that he wants Snape's approval. I think he 
wants a good grade as any student would have done and I think if he 
were to decide that there is something wrong with that, I would 
advise him to check his priorities.

The fact that Snape is unfair and everyone knows that makes one and 
only person's behaviour being wrong - **Snape** IMO. Undefensibly 
wrong and even if other people accept it, ( and not everybody does, 
actually), I do not see why Harry should.

I had my fair share of unfair grading experience back in Ukraine. I 
am sure I mentioned it on the list, maybe even more than once. I 
never had bastard like Snape in school( thanking my lucky stars 
again and again) but when I was trying to get in to college, it was 
pretty much a well known fact that jews cannot get into prestigious 
college, any of them.

I guess by your logic Pippin by refusing to give up and refusing to 
think that there is something wrong with me, but something very very 
wrong with the system, I was engaging in not constructive behaviour, 
lol :) I tried for three years over and over and over. I always got 
the grade on the college entrance exams just a tiny bit lower than 
it was necessary to get in it.

But never ever ever I thought that my expectations were incorrect.

Well, I eventually got into college Pippin ( which while was not my 
first choice, truly ended up the very best one for me)

and you know, I placed the blame where it belonged - with the 
bastards, who thought that *fifth line** in your passport ( where it 
used to say what nationality the person is) somehow makes your 
second sort citizen.

And going back to Harry and Snape, I refuse to think that there is 
anything wrong with Harry by expecting to be graded fairly, sorry.


>  
> > Alla, who thinks that all students have a right to get good 
grades
> > for job well done.
> >
> 
> Pippin:
> 
> And this right is worth dying for, as long as it's Snape who has
> to do it?  YMMV, but as people have only one life to give for
> human rights, I would prefer that it be spent on the big
> ones,  especially when there are killers on the loose.

Alla:

Huh? Worth dying for? No it is not, but certainly worth IMO fighting 
to change the system and if it was a different story certainly worth 
trying to make sure that Snape changes his methods or say good bye 
to Hogwarts.

Because maybe again if it was a different story, even if Snape would 
win such fight, another bastard teacher who would want to treat 
other students the way Snape treats Harry and Neville, would think 
twice, because he would know that the methods would not be tolerated.