Umbridge and Bellatrix Re: I hate Fudge!

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 147666

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "festuco" <vuurdame at ...> wrote:

Gerry:
> Umbridge does not want to relate, she wants to be obeyed. If you take
> children seriously, you take into account the amount of responsibility
> they can handle and give it to them accordingly. Some teachers are
> stricter than others, but we always see every teacher treat the
> students seriously: as students who are there to learn and have the
> ability to do so (some more than others). Umbridge has a completely
> different agenda. She wants to establish her own power. She does not
> care one whit what the students think of her or what's best for them.
> She wants to rub it in, that they are children and she is the adult.
> I'm quite sure she knows the students detest the way she treats them,
> but it gives her a power-kick to do so anyways. 

Geoff:
Putting aside the baby talk I mentioned which kicked off this thread, 
the fact is that Umbridge is not a teacher. Speaking as a teacher of 
over 30 years experience, you do not tell a class to read and read and 
read and forbid quesitoning or any other action. It is not a recipe for 
either learning or cooperative discipline. I'm not even sure, on 
reflection, that it is because she gets a power-kick that she deals 
with people this way; it's not only pupils who get this treatment - 
look at Trelawney and Hagrid for example. She has no communication 
skills to deal with folk who do not have the same bureaucratic mindset 
as she possesses.

I suspect she was foisted on Dumbledore from the Ministry with the 
agenda to watch what was going on. McGonagall makes it very clear when 
she speaks to Harry after his first run-in with Delectable Dolores:
'"Didn't you listen to Dolores Umbridge's speech at the start-of-term 
feast, Potter?"
"Yeah," said Harry. "Yeah... she said... porgress will be prohibited 
or... well, it meant that... that the Ministry of Magic is trying to 
interfere at Hogwarts."
Professor McGonagall eyed him closely for a moment, then sniffed, 
walked around her desk and held open the door for him.
"Well, I'm glad you listen to Hermione Granger at any rate," she said.'
(OOTP "Professor Umbridge" pp.224-25 UK edition)

It is probably the only way that they could insist on her being there. 
I imagine that Dumbledore has figured it out but may be unable to 
totally block her presence.