Petunia and Dementors
h2so3f
h2so3f at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 9 21:00:19 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147867
cat wrote: <snip>
"Petunia has a very important role to play at the beginning of the
next book. She will be the key to Lily and maybe even more of DD's
insight. In HBP, the ONLY time she reacts to anything that DD says
is that Harry will come of age next summer. She has something to do,
information to give to Harry at that time and maybe didn't realize
it was coming so soon? I like someone else thinking that maybe part
of the pact was about Dudley, perhaps he was showing some signs of
magic as a baby. Could Petunia have been visiting her sister
sometime in October, 16 odd years ago? Maybe not, but she has a very
important role to play and it definitely has (IMO) something to do
with Lily, "that awful boy" (Snape? James?) and DD....what do you
guys think?"
CH3ed:
Yep, the subject has been discussed before but didn't get far since
we don't have a lot of info on Petunia in canon. It is a good
theory, tho. Petunia is in many ways like Snape to me. They are
horrendous to Harry, but they protect him, nonetheless, often
without being acknowledged for it by Harry himself. I doubt that
there is more to Dudley than meet the eye since Jo basically says
Dudley is just as we've seen him and nothing more on her website.
But I wouldn't be surprised if the magic that protects Harry also
protects Petunia and her family. It would only be fair, since when
Petunia accepted Harry into her house she herself would have also
became a fair target for LV and his DEs. The condition of Harry's
protection dictates that he has a room in the place his mother's
living blood relative dwells. If Petunia is assassinated, then there
would be no other living blood relative of Lily, and the protection
should expire. Maybe that's why Petunia resents Harry so much
(beside him being a wizard, that is).
Cat wrote: <snipped and edited>
"As awful as Harry's childhood has been, as many bad memories that
he must have, why does he keep remembering *only* the memory of his
parent's death when attacked by Dementors? Every time I remember
people talking about Dementors, they make you relive your worst
MEMORIES (plural) yet all Harry remembers is the night his parents
were murdered. I think that this will come into play. Either on
purpose (or being overcome perhaps by Dementors) Harry will relive
the *entire* night, and see who else was in Godric's Hollow the
night his parents died. JKR has hinted that maybe Voldemort was not
alone that fateful night. There might have been witnesses, and where
better to get this information, than his own memories? Opinions?"
CH3ed:
Good points. :O) I think Harry just was never tormented by the
dementors long enough to start remembering other things than his
absolute worst memory. Until the GoF graveyard scene, that was the
murder of his parents (the memory that came out when Harry was
attacked by Umbridge's dementors was what LV said to him in the
graveyard).
I don't think using the dementors to induce Harry to remember the
details of LV's attack at Godric's Hollow is an option. The
dementors seem very bent on performing the kiss on him.... even
though they were not ordered to (definitely not in PoA, and I doubt
that Umbridge really ordered a 'kiss' on him in OotP). They didn't
go after other kids on the train in PoA, but the one that entered
Harry's car stepped toward Harry and not the others near him. So I
think they have it in for Harry and can't be trusted.
Also, I don't think dementor-induced remembrance of worst things
past ;O) is effective in helping one remember the details of the
memory. One falls into a state of despair and, if left with the
dementors long enough, loses ones mind (like most prisoners at
Azkaban).
On the other hand, the penseive is a great way of re-examining long
past memories, because it reproduces the memories as they happened
(without the person's bias)..... unless the person deliberately
tampers with them like Slug did the first memory he gave DD on the
Horcrux discussion with LV. If DD left his penseive to Harry, then I
hope Harry learns how to extract memory and to use the pensieve real
soon. He might even try to see Sirius again in the pensieve by
pulling out memories of him..... perhaps one in 12GP and, by chance,
pulls the one of the day they were cleaning the room and found the
magically sealed-shut locket!
CH3ed :O)
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