Petunia and Dementors

h2so3f h2so3f at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 9 21:00:19 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 147867

cat wrote: <snip> 
"Petunia has a very important role to play at the beginning of the 
next book. She will be the key to Lily and maybe even more of DD's 
insight. In HBP, the ONLY time she reacts to anything that DD says 
is that Harry will come of age next summer. She has something to do, 
information to give to Harry at that time and maybe didn't realize 
it was coming so soon? I like someone else thinking that maybe part 
of the pact was about Dudley, perhaps he was showing some signs of 
magic as a baby. Could Petunia have been visiting her sister 
sometime in October, 16 odd years ago? Maybe not, but she has a very 
important role to play and it definitely has (IMO) something to do 
with Lily, "that awful boy" (Snape? James?) and DD....what do you 
guys think?"


CH3ed:
Yep, the subject has been discussed before but didn't get far since 
we don't have a lot of info on Petunia in canon. It is a good 
theory, tho. Petunia is in many ways like Snape to me. They are 
horrendous to Harry, but they protect him, nonetheless, often 
without being acknowledged for it by Harry himself. I doubt that 
there is more to Dudley than meet the eye since Jo basically says 
Dudley is just as we've seen him and nothing more on her website. 
But I wouldn't be surprised if the magic that protects Harry also 
protects Petunia and her family. It would only be fair, since when 
Petunia accepted Harry into her house she herself would have also 
became a fair target for LV and his DEs. The condition of Harry's 
protection dictates that he has a room in the place his mother's 
living blood relative dwells. If Petunia is assassinated, then there 
would be no other living blood relative of Lily, and the protection 
should expire. Maybe that's why Petunia resents Harry so much 
(beside him being a wizard, that is).


Cat wrote:  <snipped and edited>
"As awful as Harry's childhood has been, as many bad memories that 
he must have, why does he keep remembering *only* the memory of his 
parent's death when attacked by Dementors? Every time I remember 
people talking about Dementors, they make you relive your worst 
MEMORIES (plural) yet all Harry remembers is the night his parents 
were murdered. I think that this will come into play. Either on 
purpose (or being overcome perhaps by Dementors) Harry will relive 
the *entire* night, and see who else was in Godric's Hollow the 
night his parents died. JKR has hinted that maybe Voldemort was not 
alone that fateful night. There might have been witnesses, and where 
better to get this information, than his own memories? Opinions?"


CH3ed: 
Good points. :O)  I think Harry just was never tormented by the 
dementors long enough to start remembering other things than his 
absolute worst memory. Until the GoF graveyard scene, that was the 
murder of his parents (the memory that came out when Harry was 
attacked by Umbridge's dementors was what LV said to him in the 
graveyard). 

I don't think using the dementors to induce Harry to remember the 
details of LV's attack at Godric's Hollow is an option. The 
dementors seem very bent on performing the kiss on him.... even 
though they were not ordered to (definitely not in PoA, and I doubt 
that Umbridge really ordered a 'kiss' on him in OotP). They didn't 
go after other kids on the train in PoA, but the one that entered 
Harry's car stepped toward Harry and not the others near him. So I 
think they have it in for Harry and can't be trusted.

Also, I don't think dementor-induced remembrance of worst things 
past  ;O) is effective in helping one remember the details of the 
memory. One falls into a state of despair and, if left with the 
dementors long enough, loses ones mind (like most prisoners at 
Azkaban). 

On the other hand, the penseive is a great way of re-examining long 
past memories, because it reproduces the memories as they happened 
(without the person's bias)..... unless the person deliberately 
tampers with them like Slug did the first memory he gave DD on the 
Horcrux discussion with LV. If DD left his penseive to Harry, then I 
hope Harry learns how to extract memory and to use the pensieve real 
soon. He might even try to see Sirius again in the pensieve by 
pulling out memories of him..... perhaps one in 12GP and, by chance, 
pulls the one of the day they were cleaning the room and found the 
magically sealed-shut locket!  

CH3ed  :O)







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