My 7 book 7 predictions
juli17 at aol.com
juli17 at aol.com
Fri Feb 10 01:54:42 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147894
> > Luckdragon:
> > 1) The person with LV at GH was a female. The "cackle of high-
> > pitched
> > laughter" was neither Wormtail nor LV, although Peter was lurking
> > outside unbeknownst to the others.
> Alla:
> 1) Snape, my money is on Snape and not for the good reasons either,
> probably waiting to get his reward - "Lily".
Exodusts:
1) Occam's Razor says the laughing was Voldemort, since we already
know he has a "high, cold voice". There is no need for a mysterious
female. Snape (fav), Pettigrew, long shot is Harry himself, watching
from the shadows with a Time-Turner.
Julie:
I don't see any reason for a female voice either, though I suppose it
could be Bellatrix. JKR has definitely implied someone else was at
Godric's Hollow, and while Pettigrew is an obvious choice, it doesn't
make much sense to me that he's this mysterious person JKR
wouldn't name. She already confirmed that Pettigrew took LV's wand
from Godric's Hollow, so if she meant him to be the mysterious
person who was there during the murders also, why not just say so?
He's no surprise revelation, so no need to keep the mystery.
I still like Snape being the person, though not so he could get Lily as
his reward. DDM!Snape wouldn't do that, as he's actually reformed and
wants to save the Potter family, not just Lily (and Snape had already
turned back to DD's side at this point). Even for an ESE!Snape it
doesn't make sense from LV's standpoint, because why not just
stupefy Lily and give her to Snape? It cost LV nothing and keeps a
grateful Snape more loyal than ever.
> > Luckdragon:
> > 2) Lupin will die! His sad life as a Werewolf must end; taking
> > Fenrir
> > Greyback with him.
> Alla:
> 2) After JKR giving Remus love interest, I feel much more confident
> that he will live. Oh, and of course he was not and never wil be
> ESE. :-0
Julie:
I agree. The love interest sealed it for me. And Remus is the *only*
adult left Harry can fully confide in now, and who can mentor him.
Hagrid's a sweetheart, but not exactly stand-in father material.
> > Luckdragon:
> > 3) Snape will be redeemed.
> Alla:
> 3) hmmm, that is a possibility of course.
Exodusts:
3) He will be simultaneously mortally wounded/redeemed in a vital
strike against Voldemort, saving Harry. Just time for a
reconciliatory chat with his last breath.
Julie:
That's what I expect also. Nothing else to add ;-)
> > Luckdragon:
> > 4) Someone utterly shocking will be revealed as ESE!
> Alla:
> 4) Either nobody or a minor character.
Exodusts:
4) No. Snape being revealed as ESG! is the "big twist" of book 7.
Julie:
LOL, but I don't think so. Snape will remain ESC!, or ever-so-conflicted,
too steeped in bitterness to slough off his nastier traits, but compelled
by his loyalty to Dumbledore and his own conscience (yes, I do think
he has one) to do the right thing (when it comes to the bigger picture
anyway). He will also be revealed as DDM!, which will be an eye-opener
for Harry. Hmm, Snape and Harry, two sides of the DDM coin ;-)
> > Luckdragon:
> > 5) LV will succumb to the Dementor's Kiss after Harry destroy's
> > the
> > Horcruxes.
> Alla:
> 5) Could be.
Exodusts:
5) If his big fear is death, why not just have him die? To prove that
Dumbledore was right about there being things worse than death? As a
neat solution to the problem of Voldemort's outright death requiring
the destruction of Horcrux-Harry? (The latter could be avoided by
having a Dementor, Harry's Big Fear, sucking the soul-part out
through his scar). Still, a solid 50/50 prediction.
Julie:
I like the idea of the Dementor's sucking the soul part out of Harry's
scar! In fact, maybe that's why they're so attracted to Harry. And if
LV is soul-sucked by the Dementors, that's not really dying, but
living on as a soulless shell. (Though it still seems like dying to me,
unless it's analogous to being fully paralyzed with your mind intact,
since how else would one know how dreadful their soul-sucked
existence is?)
> > Luckdragon:
> > 6) A Wizard(Lupin), a Witch(Bellatrix), a Centaur(Bane), and a
> > House-elf(Winky) will die.
Exodusts:
6) Lupin NO; Bellatrix YES, 100% come-uppance time at the hands of a
sub-hero (not Harry, probably Neville by indirect means); Bane, if he
is the centaur-leader, possibly yes, to be replaced by Firenze;
Winky, no, her death lacks a moral basis, her partial recovery suits
JKR's style much better.
Julie:
Bellatrix is a goner, but Lupin will live. I expect some Order members
to die, which is likely to include at least one Weasley. And I think
Dobby is more likely to die than Winky. He'll go while helping Harry,
which gives his death meaning, and conveniently gets him out of
Harry's life (who really wants a simpering house-elf hanging around
for a lifetime?).
> Alla:
> If Harry dies, he will be reunited with his loved ones behind the
> Veil, if he does not, he will NOT be Frodo Potter. He will get a
> chance to live a reasonably normal happy life. Maybe "twelve kids"
> prediction will come true.
Exodusts:
Of course. Additionally, if he does die in book 7, he might a) come
back moments later in a blaze of glory (provided Dumbledore isn't the
one who gets resurrected: it's one or the other, not both, and if one
DOES come back it will be through the Locked Door in the DoM) or b)
be able to chat merrily to Hermione and Ron every day via a Two-Way
mirror he takes through the veil, surrounded by his dead Parents,
Sirius, Dumbledore, and with a nice scarless forehead.
Julie:
Harry won't die. Harry will get his just reward--his karmic justice, as
some might say--which will be a long and happy life to make up for
the nearly unending misery of his childhood. The end :-)
> Alla:
> At some point in book 7 Harry will believe that he is Horcrux,
> which
> may or may not be true, but Harry will be fully prepared to
> sacrifice himself, which hopefully will not be needed.
Exodusts:
It will be true, he will sacrifice himself, but it will all work out
for the best.
Julie:
I agree he'll be prepared to sacrifice himself, but it will be Snape
who will sacrifice himself instead, thus paving the way for Harry's
long and happy life after Voldemort. And you know he'll get no
thanks from that little brat! ;-) Actually, he probably will.
> Alla:
> Snape will get what he deserves whatever that is. :-)
Julie:
Absolutely! He'll pay with his life for his many sins, but he'll also
be redeemed because of his sincere efforts to make up for (most)
of those sins. And while Harry's living a long, happy life, Snape
will be hanging out with the one person he truly loved, Dumbledore,
somewhere behind the veil ;-)
> Alla:
> Oh, of course the AK Snape performed was very real, not fake.
Exodusts:
Of course. Whatever dumbledoreisnotdead.com says, the evidence is
clear from the books, leaving aside the obvious fact that Dumbledore
has to be dead, in order to undergo Jesus-style Phoenix-inspired
resurrection.
Julie:
Dumbledore is dead, though I'm not convinced about the AK. JKR
has pulled too many switches on us (though never without canon
basis) for me to discount the possibility of a fake AK covering up a
nonverbal spell that knocked Dumbledore off the Tower. And the
canon comes from the heavy emphasis on nonverbal spells in HBP,
though canon is completely silent on one spell being masked by
another (which leaves as much a possibility as not).
> Alla:
> Hogwarts will be open.
Exodusts:
Definitely, since there is nothing to prevent McGonagall from opening
it, and Harry needs to go there to chat to Dumbledore's painting,
fetch the Sorting Hat, get Zacharias Smith's home address, possibly
find the heir of Ravenclaw, and expose the painting of Fortescue in
the Head's Office as Voldemort's spy (under duress - his relative,
Florian has being kidnapped by the Death Eaters).
Julie:
Agreed. And I think Voldemort may attack Hogwarts, which will get
the Order and DA deeply involved. And I like the idea of one of the
portraits being a spy!
Julie
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