The Prophecy and Its Reference to LV

susanbones2003 rkdas at charter.net
Sat Feb 11 18:48:55 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 147976

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "exodusts" <exodusts at ...> 
wrote:
>
> > hpfan_mom:
> > 
> > Just looking at the prophecy again (oh yeah, another exciting 
Friday
> > night), and wondered if there'd been posts on this before.
> > 
> > Trelawney (or the prophecy for which she's the mouthpiece) does 
not
> > name LV as You Know Who, or He Who Must Not Be Named, or 
Voldemort, or
> > Tom Riddle. The prophecy refers to him four times as the Dark 
Lord. 
> > (Page 841, OOTP, US edition)
> > 
> > IIRC, that's what the DEs call him.  What could be the 
significance of
> > that?  And that's how the prophecy is labeled, Dark Lord and (?) 
Harry
> > Potter.  (Page 780)  Who is the keeper of the Hall of Prophecy, 
the
> > wizard who labeled the official record?  (Page 842)
> 
> 
> Snape also refers to Voldemort as the Dark Lord, in front of the 
> Hogwarts students. Admittedly, he used to be a Death Eater, but he 
is 
> supposed to be reformed. It seems likely that calling him that is 
not a 
> complete no-no amongst non-Death-Eaters. Alternatively, the 
mysterious 
> powers that grant prophecies ultimately align themselves with 
evil. Or 
> JKR thought it would be awkward for Trelawney to use "He-Who-Must-
Not-
> Be-Named" in that speech.
> 
> exodusts.
>
Jen D. here,
I have never felt at ease with anyone who called LV "the Dark Lord" 
since FakeMoody did so with Harry in his office at the beginning of 
his unveiling. It was such a clear signal in that instance that now 
I feel very uncomfortable when other characters, characters that we 
are supposed to know and understand their loyalties, use it. Snape, 
I am hoping uses it to maintain his cover with Draco. It's obvious 
that it doesn't ring bells for most characters. Harry realized it, 
that only DeathEaters ever call him the Dark Lord, but Harry didn't 
spend a lot of time pondering it, the clue when past him in the 
prophecy and the "wise old man" let it pass as well. We are being 
led somewhere with this and I haven't quite got there on my own yet. 
Jen D. inconclusivity becoming her trademark...









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