Significance of the term "Dark Lord" (Was:: The Prophecy and Its Reference to LV

Ceridwen ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Sun Feb 12 00:46:17 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 147987

Jen D.:
> > I have never felt at ease with anyone who called LV "the Dark 
Lord"
> since FakeMoody did so with Harry in his office at the beginning of
> his unveiling. It was such a clear signal in that instance that now 
I
> feel very uncomfortable when other characters, characters that we 
are
> supposed to know and understand their loyalties, use it.

Carol:
> The Prophecy is spoken in a voice that is not Trelawney's. She's a
> conduit or oracle voicing an ambiguous prediction that may or may 
not
> come to pass. The language that she uses in Seer mode is both 
ominous
> and ambiguous. Neither Harry nor Voldemort is named. Voldemort
> supplies the identities for both parties (Harry's some months after
> hearing the Prophecy as he's not yet born when it occurs). However,
> Trelawney's second Prophecy also refers to the Dark Lord, and 
there's
> no question that the term in that instance refers to Voldemort.
*(snip)*

Ceridwen:

The term 'Dark Lord' could just be a designation, as 
in 'dictator', 'president', 'CEO', 'clerk'.  I'm not sure if 
Grindelwald is referred to as a Dark Lord, or a Dark Wizard, but 
either one would be the same, I think.  Like Hitler's 'Fuhrer' was a 
generic sort of term that he apparently liked and had people use.  
Or, more to my taste, 'Fearless Leader' in the Rocky and Bullwinkle 
cartoons.  That can't be his name, and he wasn't truly 'fearless'.  
But it's what he liked his minions to call him.  We know what 
a 'fearless leader' is, it's generic.  But we know 'Fearless Leader' 
as a specific character in a cartoon as well.

Ceridwen, making her own sextant and hoping that this time the 
degrees come out right.







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