Sadistic Teachers (was:Re: Teaching Styles)/ quick question to Neri

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

> You know, Renee, I would like to read those posts too. I absolutely 
> see Snape as sadist, but I did not even THINK once about Snape 
> getting sexual kick out of Harry and Neville's, and maybe some other 
> student's sufferings (whom we don't see).
> 
> I absolutely use your second definition of sadism "the deriving a 
> pleasure from cruelty". I don't know if Snape derives sexual pleasure 
> from it (that IMO seems like fanfic oriented argument, I don't think 
> canon tells us one way or another). I just see in the books that he 
> LIKES to watch Harry and Neville suffer and THAT leads me to think 
> that he is  a sadist. 

Actually, I don't think he likes to watch Neville suffer. I think he
is almost perpetually angry with Neville because he is not able to
understand Neville's problems and that he takes it out on Neville.
Just as he takes out his hatred of James on Harry which fluently
transfers to hating Harry for his own sake and acting accordingly. I
think Snape often acts sadistic because he is emotionally warped and
he is far less in control of his emotions as he likes to think. I
don't know if I'm right, but Snape gives me the feeling that he
perceives himself as the injured party and as the emotional teenager
he is, he acts by hitting back. I think he is in a perpetual revenge
against all teenagers for what others did to him when he was a student. 

Umbridge is different, she actually derives pleasure of her power
trips. Just as Barty Crouch I think has amused himself highly all year
long by all his actions being interpreted the wrong way, people
trusting him while he is actually betraying them.

Gerry