Where is Fawkes?

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 148094

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "truthbeauty1" <rh64643 at ...> wrote:
>
> As I re read HBP, and was browsing thru some editorials, a 
> question stood out to me. Where did Fawkes go? ... In COS, Fawkes
> is clearly there to aid Harry, even though Dumbldore has left the 
> school. Fawkes is there to assist someone who is loyal to 
> Dumbldore. 

bboyminn:

Here I think is the first flaw in your logic. Fawkes is NOT there to
assist anyone who is loyal to Dumbledore. Fawkes himself bonded with
Dumbledore and by Fawkes own choice, he is loyal to Dumbledore. But,
given the nature of Phoenix's, we must consider that Dumbledore does
not OWN Fawkes, instead, in a manner of speaking, Fawkes own
Dumbledore. Fawkes chooses whether to stay or go. 

Now, Fawkes certainly does assist Harry as an extension of Dumbledore,
 and futher Fawkes is called to Harry by Harry's expressions of
Loyalty to Dumbledore. But Fawkes appearance was an extension of his
loyalty to Dumbledore and indeed may have done it at Dumbledore's
request. That is, before he left, Dumbledore ask Fawkes to come to
Harry's aid, if Harry should need help. 

Further, in my opinion, Phoenix can't fooled. They may have tricked
Harry into believing Dumbledore was dead, but they never would have
been able to trick Fawkes. So, when Fawkes cried and sang his mornful
lament to Dumbledore's death, it was real. He felt his bond to
Dumbledore broken and knew Dumbledore was gone. 

So, with his connection to Dumbledore no longer there to hold him,
Fawkes simply left. That place no longer had meaning for him without
Dumbledore. So, Fawkes is off on his own. 


> truthbeauty1:
>
> ... What if Fawkes left to aid someone who was loyal to 
> Dumbldore and in a desperate situation? In short, what if 
> Fawkes is currently with Snape? I have often wondered, if 
> Snape is loyal to Dumbledore, what is going to convince Harry
> of that....
>
> truthbeauty1
>


bboyminn:

While I think Fawkes is gone, I don't think he really is gone. Fawkes
chose Dumbledore as his companion, he has no loyalty to anyone else.
However, I get the sense that Fawkes sensed and shared Dumbledore's
affection for Harry. While Fawkes may not be bonded to Harry the way
he was to Dumbledore, that doesn't mean that Fawkes doesn't feel a
sense of affection and connection to Harry. 

I believe that at some point in the next book Fawkes will once again
come to Harry's aid as Fawkes own reflection of affection and loyalty
to Dumbledore. Fawkes will sense that Harry is avenging the death of
Dumbledore, and once again, that expression of loyalty to Dumbledore
will bring Fawkes to him.

While I can't say NO, I do have trouble with the idea of Fawkes coming
specifically and directly to Snape's aid. I can see Snape being
indirectly aided by Fawkes, but we have seen no signs of affection
that would indicate that Fawkes is even remotely bonded to Snape or
that he cares one way or another what happens to Snape. 

Remember Phoenix are very solitary creatures. For them to bond or
become the companion to a wizard is very rare. There would have to be
some sense of or at least clue to their affection, for the Phoenix to
assist anyone.

I am convinced that Fawkes is not gone from the story. Although, I am
equally convinced that, at this point, Fawkes is not bonded to anyone.
Still for Fawkes to have bonded with Dumbledore, he clearly saw
something very special in him, and would greatly feel that loss. So,
Fawkes is still around, and I suspect in some major confrontation,
Fawkes will come to Harry aid.

Just a few thoughts.

STeve/bboyminn