Minerva McGonagall

[susanbones2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 148357

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry" <Sherry at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sir_lafayette2000" 
> <gsopko@> wrote:
> >
> > I believe that McGonagall 
> > arrived way too early at Privet Drive and this may well be a 
clue 
> > that Rowling has planted right at the get go of the books.
> > ...
> > Hagrid had been at Godric's Hollow, knew that [James and Lily] 
> were dead yet failed to tell her more than Harry apparently was 
> > to be taken to 4 Privet Drive.
> > ...
> 
> Amontillada:
> How exactly do we judge "way too early"? She might be 
> considered "too early" because she was there far before 
Dumbledore, 
> but her early arrival might also be considered wisely scouting out 
> the territory, or to use the French (and American military) term, 
> reconnaisance.
> 
> Hagrid probably thought he should McGonagall only the crucial 
> information that she needed to know immediately. Moving quickly 
and 
> staying hidden were vital for him, so he couldn't spare the time 
to 
> tell her more; and Hagrid has often shown that he sees Dumbledore 
as 
> being the best one to tell important information.
> 
> > In the scene in the Hospital Wing in H-BP after Dumbledore has 
> died, 
> > when everyone is being transfixed by the phoenix song, it is 
> > McGonagall's entrance that breaks the "magic" of this moment.  
> 
> Amontillada:
> I read this as a classic example of McGonagall's practical, "do 
what 
> must be done" personality. As deeply as she feels the loss, she 
> feels the responsibility for continuing the actions that 
Dumbledore 
> considered vital.
> 
> > Further Harry refuses to tell her where he and Dumbledore have 
> been 
> > or what his plans are, even tho she is a member of the Order of 
> the 
> > Phoenix.
>  
> Amontillada:
> From the very beginning of HBP, Dumbledore had encouraged Harry to 
> share information specifically with Hermione and Ron. Harry has 
been 
> close-mouthed with others, not with McGonagall in particular.
> 
> > I suspect that McGonagall was not entirely trusted by Dumbledore 
> and 
> > may well be a spy for the Ministry of Magic.  Which might also 
> > explain her contempt for the High Inquisitor earlier in the 
story.
>  
> Amontillada
> I'm confused about what you mean. I don't understand how spying 
for 
> the MM might "explain" her contempt for Umbridge. Can you explain 
> more about what you mean?
> 
> I like to discuss McGonagall. As you may have guessed, I see her 
as 
> on the side of good.
> 
> Amontillada

Hi all, 
This was a very hard post to decide where to snip so I didn't. 
Forgive me List Elves.

I do not really suspect McGonagall of being anything untoward. I 
couldn't conceive of it but I do see now at the end of 6 books that 
she has been left out of the loop on things a few times.
Specifically, she was sent to do an errand for DD during the multi-
layered denoument in GOF so that she didn't find out that Sirius was 
the black shaggy dog. She was so "in and out" of the action, I'd 
have to go back and diagram the action to tell you just what other 
details she missed but it struck me as odd that she should not be in 
on things squarely. I also found it interesting, perhaps odd, that 
Harry so resolutely refused to divulge the nature of his work with 
DD during their meeting in her new Headmistress's office. Could it 
be that DD gave these instructions to protect others in the Order? 
After all, finding those horcruxes is the secret to defeating LV and 
it would be horrible if a spy alerted LV to the plan. Even so, it 
seems that Harry is indeed taking great pains to seperate himself 
from a post-DD Hogwarts. She isn't stepping into any position of 
mother-confessor for Harry, just the the new head of a school. I do 
wonder if this has any greater meaning but again, I can't even 
contemplate a McGonagall of less than the purist motives.
Jen D. getting out her GOF and re-reading the section after the 
return.>