Why Leave Harry at HW at the End of HBP?
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Sun Feb 19 19:59:53 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 148411
Dung, now:
> Pawns, exactly. Except that Snape's fighting back. It's Wizard's
> Chess between Voldy and DD, and DD has the upper hand because he
> knows trusts and loves his pieces, whereas Voldy's trying to treat
> his pieces as though they're a Muggle set and not alive at all.
Jen: I don't have anything to add here, this analogy just struck me
as so right-on it deserved another reading. :)
Dung:
> The thing is, we don't know whether Voldy really is greater and
> more terrible than before because he used Harry's blood in the
> graveyard. All we've got to counter it is that blasted gleam. But
> he might be, for all we know, even if DD's gleam is a hint that
> having used Harry's blood could lead to his downfall eventually.
> In fact, I'd say that since he's managed to get rid of DD this
> time round, and he wasn't able to do that last time round, he
> probably *is* greater and more terrible than before, which doesn't
> mean he's any more invulnerable.
Jen: Gee, why have I never read this before? This is honestly my
first time to think the words of the first prophecy might be
connected to the events of getting Harry's blood at the graveyard.
Or alternatively, the mixture of unicorn blood and Nagini venom? The
prophecy also claimed the servant would 'aid' the master to rise
again and that could be read as the cauldron scene and/or obtaining
the fetal form which made the graveyard possible. JKR did say in the
TLC/MN interview there was something significant about the fetal
form Voldemort took prior to a full body:
"I feel that I could justify every single piece of morbid imagery in
those books. The one that I wondered whether I was going to be able
to get past the editors was the physical condition of Voldemort
before he went into the cauldron, do you remember? He was kind of
fetal. I felt an almost visceral distaste for what I had conjured
up, but there's a reason it was in there and you will see that."
Dung:
> Characterising his attempts to kill Harry as an obsession with
> faulty wiring's a bit harsh... I suspect that his major problem is
> that he believes in fate (JKR doesn't, she believes in hard work),
> rather than in making choices. Being Slytherin's heir and all that
> will do that to a chap, though, won't it? I think DD is pretty
> clear that if Voldy hadn't acted on the prophecy, he would have
> been a lot better off. All his current obsessions come back to
> that, really, that he believes the prophecy.
Jen: Well....maybe it's harsh. I like your explanation of him
believing in fate, anyway. Besides the hard work, I think luck was
her other reason for her own success? Good news for Harry, then ;).
You know, this connects more to the comments above, but the reason
I'm unsure whether Voldemort is actually greater and more terrible
is because it's pretty hard to see past all the weaknesses
Dumbledore exposed in HBP. Besides the sad (to me) conditions of
Riddle's beginnings, there's the part about being scared of the dark
and dead bodies which is difficult not to connect to little child
fears, esp. of the dark. So yes I do tend to see him as
having 'faulty wiring' both in nature *and* nuture and don't quite
understand where JKR is headed there.
To be a bit repetitive 'cause I like the idea: I hope there's more
meaning than simply exposition for book 7 (or the horcrux search) in
the story of Riddle's evolution into Voldemort. It seems like so
*much* exposition for that. I'd like to think there's something in
Voldemort's story which, similar to whatever Harry learns about Lily
in Book 7, will have meaning for 'what Harry has to do in the end.'
Jen R.
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