Curses and non-descriptions (was: DDM!Snape clue)
h2so3f
h2so3f at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 20 05:31:12 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 148449
Neri wrote: <snip a bunch of a good post>
"The most famous example of a non-description in the series is
probably the curse that killed (or not) Sirius in OotP. Harry surely
saw at least what color it was, but the color isn't described. Harry
probably also saw if it was Bellatrix who shot it, or at least he'd
know, if he thinks back about what he saw, whether it could have
been somebody else. So if the author is going to take advantage of
this non-description to tell me later that it was somebody else
(like ESE!Lupin, as Pippin suggested) who shot the curse, I'll feel
cheated."
CH3ed:
I think it is quite certain that Bellatrix was the one who shot that
curse that sent Sirius over the veil, tho. Otherwise Harry wouldn't
have screamed that "She killed Sirius. I'll kill her," as he ran
after Bella toward to fountain.
Neri wrote:
"The author doesn't have to describe explicitly *everything* the
hero sees, but I feel as if we have a tacit agreement that she has
to describe anything *relevant* that Harry sees.
So here is my question: can anybody think of even a single non-
description in the series that JKR later used in order to spring an
unexpected solution for a mystery? I can't think of even a single
example. The only case I can think of is when JKR didn't describe
Harry not putting the Felix Felicis in Ron's drink. But I think this
example doesn't really qualify, because it's Harry in this case who
uses the non-description to play the trick on us (and on Ron and
Hermione). But is there a case were JKR uses a non-description to
play a trick on both Harry and us?"
CH3ed:
Not sure. I don't have my books with me. How about in GoF after
Harry and Krum met the deranged Mr. Crouch in the forest and DD had
the fake Moody out looking for him? Harry asked fake Moody later if
he used the Marauder's Map, and fake Moody said he took a leaf out
of Harry's book and summoned it from his office. I'd think had he
really done that the map would have been spotted zooming toward the
forest (but I think Fake Moody had it with him all the time...just
put it in his pocket once he saw his dad entered the ground). But
Harry and us took fake Moody's patronizing words for it. Does that
fit the criteria?
CH3ed not thinking very clearly after watching way too much curling
over the weekend. ;O)
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