Seven Lives of LV (was: .. I know what ... the horcruxes is.)

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 148481

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Andrea Grevera" <agdisney at ...>
wrote:
...
>   Andie:
> 
> Since Mundungus is OFH and deals with who knows what could it
> be possible that Mundungus sold the locket back to Borgin & 
> Burkes? Imagine how happy they would be to have it back 
> considering LV must have stolen it when he left their employ.
> 


bboyminn:

I'm not sure Mundungus would have been able to steal the Locket,
though I'm sure he would have if he could since it was being thrown
away. The 'decontamination' of the Drawing Room took three and a half
days. All the objects, including the Locket, were thrown into sacks,
and presumably thrown away. 

There is no mention of Mundungus during the period of time. He isn't
mention specifically until an indeterminate time later when he rescues
Ron from a set if purple robes that tried to strangle him. 

However, we have several mentions of Kreacher trying to pilfer objects
during the whole period of time; from beginning to end. There is no
mention of Kreacher having the Locket, but there is a mention of
several silver framed photos being thrown, and later when we see
Kreacher's 'den', we see several framed photos. 

If anyone has salvaged the Locket, it is certain to be Kreacher.

However, that does bring up a question, what do wizards do with stuff
they throw away? Do the leave it at the curb for the garbage man to
pick up, or is it vanished by magic? If it is vanished by magic, can
it be unvanished? Remember when Harry enters the kitched after an
Order meeting and several documents are left on the table. Mr. Weasley
reminds them the table needs to be clear immediately after the
meetings, and (I believe) Bill 'vanished' these documents. The
documents seem to important to throw away, so did he actually 'vanish'
them, or did he simply move them to another location? Of course, we
don't know, but it seems like these would be documents he would want
to get back. So, again, if they were 'vanished' can they still be
retrieved?

Since Kreacher hangs on to the Family objects, I don't that they will
have been sold to Borgins and Burkes. I guess there is the possibility
that the Locket was saved by Kreacher, and later, when Kreacher was at
Hogwarts, stolen by Mundungus. Still, why would Mundungus look in
Kreacher's boiler room for anything valuable. It seems the last likely
place for valuable objects.

> Andie continues:
> 
> ...edited...
>
> One more thing, at Godric's Hollow, the AK bounced off Harry &
> turned LVinto Vapormort.  Wouldn't that have destroyed another 
> horcrux?  LV actually died at GH.  The only thing that kept him 
> "alive" was a horcrux.  Shouldn't he  have lost a horcrux here?
> 
>   Andie

bboyminn: 

Horcruxes, in my opinion, are not like the nine lives of a cat, where
one is used up with each brush with death. The Horcruxes are
permanent, and stop the core-soul from crossing over to the 'other side'. 

As long as one piece of the soul is trapped and earthbound, the
remaining parts of the soul can not cross over into death. The
Horcruxes act as an anchor to the earthly life. Remember that only one
Horcrux is needed, and as long as it exists, the core-soul can never
cross over into death. Of course, Voldemort lost his body in the
process, but he didn't die. His earthly essense lived on without a
body. Later, with help, Voldemort is able to create a new version of
his old body in which his earthbound soul coulf reside.

So, in my opinion, the answer is no, a Horcrux is not destroy every
time Voldemort has a near death experience. 

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn