The Ancient and Most Noble House Of Black

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 148515

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Victoria Scott"
<little_scottie6 at ...> wrote:
>
> Gryffindor Chaser:
> 
> ... you can see that in one generation a Black family member 
> married 1) Potter, 2) Longbottom and 3) Crouch. ..., if each 
> of these families ... is good, then why would they still be on
> the family tree, whouldn't they have been scratched off like 
> the Weasleys and Sirius himself.
> 

bboyminn:

I don't think it is a question of 'good' or 'bad'. That is, morals,
ethics, and which side of the law you are on is not the key issue;
Pureblood beliefs are. So, the Weasleys despite being both from old
pureblood families and from a line of pureblood marriages, are off the
family tree because they are muggle and muggle-born supporters. In
otherword, in the view of pureblood fanatics, they are blood traitors.

The elder Crouch shown on the family tree may not have been involved
in the first Voldemort war, and therefore he wouldn't be penalized for
the actions of the younger Barty Crouch Sr. Even while Barty Sr.
fought against Voldemort and considered him a criminal, that doesn't
change the fact that he comes from a long line of purebreds. So, while
he acted against Voldemort, he did not necessarily renounce the purity
of wizarding blood, so he could also possibly remain on the family tree. 

I would suspect that many Pureblood fanatics would consider themselves
law abiding citizens, but also consider that the current direction of
the government would be wrong, and therefore feel justified in their
opposition to muggle-positive laws. 

Really though, I'm not even convinced that being burned off the family
tree is about purity of blood. I think it is pure vindictiveness. If
you don't agree with me (meaning Mrs. Black) then you are scum and you
are off the family tree. It's more about a sense of superiority and
absolute rightness, than it is about any real ideology.

> Gryffindor Chaser continues:
>
> This led me to think that maybe each of these had something to
> do with their subsequent deaths, like James Potter, the 
> Longbottoms, and the Couch's?
> 
> Just a thought.
>

bboyminn:

Not sure what you mean by this last statement. Are you saying the
older Crouch's on the family tree were redeemed in a sense because the
 younger and new Crouch members caused their own doom? 

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn