CHAPDISC: HBP10, The House of Gaunt
a_svirn
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Tue Feb 21 14:26:03 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 148521
a_svirn:
Brilliant synopsis and questions, lealess! This said I don't think I
agree with your conclusions on No. 4.
> 4. Considering they are the heirs of Slytherin, why are the
Gaunts so
> far outside the Wizarding world? It does not seem likely the Gaunts
> married into any other pureblood families.
a_svirn:
What else could the Gaunts have been doing for about a millennium if
not marrying into pureblood families? It's not like there is any
other method to stay pureblood. You'd run out of cousins in three
generations in you confine yourself exclusively to your own family.
The very fact that they managed to last this long proves that they
married into other families once in a while. Not that these other
families weren't their distant cousins too, though. If the Black
Family Chart is any indication, they all are related to some degree.
>Gaunt himself may have been
> prepared to let the Slytherin bloodline die with Merope and Morfin.
a_svirn:
Well, it's not that he was "prepared", I guess. It's just that he
couldn't have much of a choice. His family fortunes were in a total
wreck, his son was a half-wit, and he probably rated his daughter's
intellect not much higher. Can you imagine anyone who would want an
alliance with such a family? Besides, he was too proud. Rather than
be a third-rate member of a wizarding community he preferred to live
in a world of his own. A perfectly pathetic world, but one where he
was a lord and master. Even though it was his own children he was
lording over.
> The Gaunts even seem to be unaware of the Wizarding world's laws.
a_svirn:
This is not an uncommon attitudes among purebloods. The only
difference is that the Malfoys, say, or the Blacks could afford it
(usually), while the Gaunts, alas, were not as well-connected as
these magnates. Obviously they used to, and the habits still
lingered, though.
> With this degree of separation, how did the Gaunts come to possess
> wands, or make their living?
>How did Merope learn the magic she used
> once her father and brother were gone?
a_svirn:
How do we know that they were this separated? There is nothing in
the books to suggest that she never studied in Hogwarts. Or did I
miss something? I haven't got a book right now.
> 8. Who teaches morality in the wizarding world in the absence of
> parents, if not teachers? Dumbledore has in Harry a virtual orphan,
> like Tom Jr. was, a person raised with a dearth of love and with
> ineffective parental guidance. But Dumbledore, when faced with an
> opportunity to reinforce the message of a teacher who gave a
detention
> based on disrespect or to address a lesson in privacy based on
> Pensieve misuse, sidesteps the issue. Dumbledore says he has told
> Harry the truth, but he hasn't told him the complete truth; for
> example, he didn't tell him that Snape was the eavesdropper at the
> Hog's Head. Dumbledore trusts Harry to know right from wrong,
based on
> years of observation but observation alone did not work with Tom
Jr.
> It seems that Rowling is concluding, through Dumbledore, that
people
> are born with a "blood"-derived moral sense. Voldemort was
descended
> from the debased Gaunts and the selfish Riddle Sr.; they were bad,
and
> he is therefore evil. Harry was descended from Lily and James
Potter;
> they were good, and Dumbledore can therefore trust Harry to be
good,
> even if Harry was raised without love. It becomes pointless to
teach
> moral lessons. All Dumbledore has to do is sit back and observe how
> people show their moral character. Is this, in fact, the
assumption on
> which Dumbledore operates?
a_svirn:
I wouldn't say that. But Rowling said (through Dumbledore) that
Harry is special. So I guess, his specialness is supposed to explain
the special treatment. Come to think of it, Voldemort is also
special
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