The Charming Nature of Fidelity and the Secret Keeper

hambtty hambtty at triad.rr.com
Thu Feb 23 19:52:30 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 148690

Your post has me thinking........Did DD ask Snape to become the 
Secret Keeper for The Order upon his death?  If the secret dies with 
the Keeper then surely there must be someone who "inherits" the 
secret through some type of charm cast by the Keeper.  Was this part 
of the arguement between Snape and DD which Hagrid overheard? If DD 
trusted Snape as he professed and Snape's occulmency powers are 
equal to none (except possibly LV) - who better to trust with the 
secret?

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> Two people made brilliant suggestions regarding the Secret Keeper
> Charm which is rightfully called the 'Fidelius Charm'. I swear I 
tried
> to track down their post so I could reference them, but Yahoo 
search
> was being very uncooperative. Who ever you are, please step forward
> and take a bow. 
> 
> First, we start with the logical assumption that 'Fidelius' is 
related
> to fidelity, and that fidelity is related to truth and 
faithfulness.
> When you take on the role of Secret Keeper, you are taking on a 
sacred
> trust. In swearing the protect the secret, you are swearing undying
> fidelity and loyalty to the secret and the subjects of the secret.
> 
> When Dumbledore reveals the secret to Harry and Order members, he 
is
> acting in good faith and perserving the sacred trust. When Peter 
tells
> Voldemort the secret of the Potters, he is acting in /bad faith/, 
and
> is violationg the spirit and letter of the Fidelius Charm.
> 
> Perhaps, the secret only remains true and the Charm remains in 
effect
> for as long as the Secret Keeper maintains 'fidelity'. That's why 
it
> is critical that the Secret Keeper be a trusted soul. As long as he
> remain true and loyal to the Secret, it is safe, but as soon as the
> Secret Keeper acts with intentional /bad faith/, the 'fidelity' 
aspect
> is lost and the Charm is broken. 
> 
> In a sense, it is the act of undying fidelity that holds the Charm
> together. I'm not sure if this is true, but it is a reasonable
> explanation for some of the things we see happen in the books. 
After
> the death of Harry's parents, people seem to be able to find the
> Potter's house, some of them might be in on the secret, but clearly
> others, like the muggles, couldn't possible know that secret. 
> 
> What could explain this? Simply, true deep fidelity. As long as the
> Secret Keeper remains faithful, the secret is safe. Dumbledore took
> his secrets to the grave with him, even in his death, those secret 
are
> still safe. Peter, absolutely, willfully, selfishly, and greedily
> broke the faith and therefore broke the 'fidelity' charm. 
> 
> Is it true? I don't know, but hey it could happen.
> 
> Just a thought. And sorry for stealing someone else's thunder. 
Again,
> if this was your idea, please step forward and take a bow; it was
> brilliant.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>








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