Secret Keepers/JKR Poll Question

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 23 22:18:48 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 148701

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, siddharth mishra
<sidd_m2003 at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Tonks:
> >> Isn't the secret and the fact that a location is hidden from
> view two seperate things? 12 Grimmauld Place is invisible because
> of all the spells placed on it by old Mr. Black, not because it 
> is a secret headquarters for the Order. <<
> 
> Sid:
> Black senior did hide the house but not from wizards but from
> muggles so he was not a secret keeper or some thing like that. 
> Let me know what you think.
>

bboyminn:

Well, I'm sure I'm over my post limit by now, but...you only live once.

Dumbledore using a note tells Harry 'The headquarters of the Order of
the Phoenix is found at #12 Grimmauld Place.' ...or something very
close to that.

So, 'headquaters' is the secret, not 12 Grimmauld Place. However, it
just so happens that 'headquarters' IS 12 Grimmald Place, and that
coincidence hides them both. 

It's a simple logic equation -

-The headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix is hidden.
-Twelve Grimmauld Place is the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix.
-Therefore, 12 Grimmauld Place is hidden. 

So, I speculate, that as long as 12 Grimmauld Place is headquarters it
is hidden by the Fidelius Charm. When 'headquarters' moves, the
protection moves with it. Which means that Grimmauld place is still,
but only, protected by the enchantments placed on it before the Secret
Keeper Charm went into effect. 

This seems a reasonable course of logic. Of course, I can't prove it,
and JKR may shoot it down in the next book, but I think we have some
clues. 

For example, Harry mentions that 12 Grimmauld Place is 'headquarters'
in front of the Dursley. How can he do that if 12 Grimmauld Place is
protected by the Fidelius Charm? Well, logically he can't. So, we
could conclude that Grimmauld Place is no longer headquarters, which
Dumbledore confirms, and is no longer protected by the Charm which in
turn allows Harry to be able to make that statement.

Again, it make logical sense, but I can't claim with any certainty
that it is true.

Steve/bboyminn








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