Why does Snape wants DADA job if it cursed? WAS: Re: Snape again

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 25 05:05:36 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 148762

Lupinlore:
<SNIP>
> But all this raises another interesting question:  If the position 
is 
> probably cursed, why on Earth does Snape want it so badly?  Is he 
> faking his desire?  We have no evidence for that, indeed all the 
> evidence we have including the application records cited by 
Umbridge 
> show Snape has wanted the position badly for many years.

Alla:

Actually, prior to OOP I was convinced that Snape does not really 
want DADA job and this is justa  gossip, but OOP convinced me that 
he does and now I keep getting the craziest idea (SPECULATION) that 
Snape may not have really known about the curse( assuming that such 
curse exists of course). I tend to believe that it does, but you can 
be right, Lupinlore.
Now for my idea of course you have to not believe in "Snape as DD 
right hand man and DD tell him everything" argument, but well, I did 
not really believe in this argument especially after JKR pretty much 
saying that DD has no confidants. So, that suits for me. Although I 
know it still sounds crazy, but bear with me.

I was hesitant to even write it out loud :-), because I got it into 
my head for some reason that Percy in PS/SS says that position was 
cursed or something, but then when I thought about it, I realized 
that he really does not, since the first verbal acknowledgment of 
DADA curse we hear from Dumbledore in HBP.

If there are gossips around school about position being cursed and I 
don't remember them, then of course please forget about this 
speculation as non-existent, since if students talk about it, Snape 
surely at least heard about it. But if they don't, well, I am not so 
sure that Dumbledore deemed it necessary to inform Snape about it.

Lupinlore:
 Yet Snape 
> hardly seems the type to commit professional suicide for the sake 
> of a principle.

Alla: 
HAHA. Very true.

Lupinlore:
  Does Snape dismiss the evidence of the curse as so 
> much hooey?

Alla: 
Right that sounds very possible to me OR to go even further, he does 
not think that DADA teachers not staying more than a year is nothing 
but happy or unhappy coincidence. I guess I just rephrased what you 
said.

Lupinlore:
 It's 
> true if there IS in fact a curse it's hard to know why DD would 
give 
> Snape the job, but it's even harder to know why Snape would WANT a 
> cursed job over his entire career at Hogwarts (evidently at least 
14 
> years).

Alla: 
Well, there is of course an argument of Dumbledore and Snape 
meticulously planning together for the events after UV and 
Dumbledore knowing that Snape will have to leave at the end of the 
year anyway, but yes, I am still not sure why Dumbledore would give 
him the job anyways if Snape is a white hat and Dumbledore values 
him somehow.

Basically, from the position of DD!M Snape giving Snape a job means 
that Dumbledore does not even PLAN on staying alive, no? It means 
that Dumbledore is not even thinking at the end of the year of 
staying alive, he is planning his own death, nothing more than that, 
and after killing Dumbledore Snape of course will have no choice but 
to disappear.

But since Dumbledore did not strike me as preparing his own death in 
great details during HBP, I have to look for explanation that would 
satisfy me more.

Suppose Dumbledore really did not want to give Snape the job even 
during HBP AND at the beginning of HBP he informs Snape that he 
believes that position indeed cursed.

What if Dumbledore simply decided again to let Snape make a choice? 
What if he simply caved in to Snape's desire to teach DADA? Maybe he 
learned from concealing information from Harry and decided not to 
make the same mistake with Snape anymore? What if Dumbledore put his 
cards on the table to Snape and told him that yes, I know that you 
wanted the position for fourteen years and that is the reason I was 
not giving it to you. I was trying to keep you safe in Hogwarts or 
something like that. You want it? I can give it to you.

I think giving Snape's arrogance(IMO of course), it would be 
perfectly in character for Snape to take it, thinking that curse is 
just a gossip and other DADA teachers could not keep their positions 
because they were incompetent fools or undeserving of it OR if Snape 
believes in curse that he can remove it.


Lupinlore:
  It's especially hard to know why he would be jealous of 
> Lupin getting the job.  Given the situation with the prank, it 
would 
> be logical for Snape to be gloating over Lupin's predicament and 
> waiting eagerly for the Snape to work Lupin's comeuppance.  Yet 
all 
> the evidence we have is that Snape was extremely jealous and 
annoyed, 
> and that he believed Lupin had received a valuable prize that 
rightly 
> belonged to him, Snape.

Alla:

I think it can actually be perfect evidence that Snape did not know 
and/or did not believe in DADA curse. You are so right. Snape should 
have been happy that Remus got the job, if he believed in curse.

Now, all of that is a one big speculation, so please don't bother 
pointing this out. I know that. :-) It IS speculation, nothing more.

JMO,

Alla.









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