Draco and Dumbledore WAS: Re: Is Snape good or evil? (longer)

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> Alla: 
> > And sure, I can see DD wanting to protect Draco despite little 
> > shmuck not wanting such protection and plotting to kill the 
> > Headmaster, I can see that.
> 
> Pippin:
> You make it sound like Dumbledore was foolish to want to do that.
> Indeed that's your argument against "Snape took the vow to protect
> Draco" isn't it?
> 
> But if Draco were a real child, surely you wouldn't call him foul
> names in Yiddish and suggest that because his gangster family 
> had involved him in a murder plot, he didn't deserve the help
> and protection of his teachers. Snape did *not* vow to help
> Draco carry out the task itself -- in fact he made it very clear 
to 
> Bella and Cissy that the Dark Lord expected Draco to try first
> and he couldn't interfere with that. 

Alla:

Erm... sure, Pippin. My frustration with DD giving generous second 
chances to Draco is because of my extreme dislike of this character, 
nothing more. And no, I don't think Dumbledore was foolish, but too 
noble for his own good. He IS a better person than me, that's for 
sure. I don't know if I would go out of my way to protect a teenager 
who was delighted to started serving Dark Lord by preparing my 
assasination, but the teacher like Dumbledore - sure. See, I can NOT 
forget how HAPPY Draco looked on his Hogwarts express and that was 
before he knew that Voldemort would threaten his family. So, I am 
not quite buying "trapped Draco". I mean SURE Voldemort intented to 
trap Draco, but Draco's mindset BEFORE he knew that he would be 
trapped means a huge difference to me. Believe me, despite my 
extreme dislike of his character, I would be able to feel pity for 
him, if from the beginning Voldemort would have said "You have to 
kill DD, or your family is dead", but Draco did not know all that 
yet and STILL he was eager to do it. Katie almost died. Did that 
stop Draco? Nope. Ron almost died. Did that stop Draco? Nope.

So, to answer your question, if that was a real child who was eager 
to assasinate me ( and where do you get "his family trapped him?"), 
I would not feel much warm fuzzy feelings towards him, but I do 
respect and admire people who would. 

Of course, situation would be quite different in RL, I would surely 
try and remember his age and I suppose would try to help such 
teenager, if I could, but I don't know. I hope I won't be in such 
situation, frankly.


Pippin:
> I think it's a mistake to assume Dumbledore wouldn't risk both
> himself and Snape for Draco's sake.

Alla:

I actually don't think that DD won't risk himself for his students 
sake, I just don't think that he was ready to DIE for Draco that 
night. I think he intended to help Draco by staying alive. IMO of 
course.
 

And yes, I do think that Draco can still go both ways. He can return 
or become faithful DE. The main question for me whether he becomes 
like Snape or not.

JMO,

Alla