"Stand aside, girl" and the End

[juli17ptf]

No: HPFGUIDX 145784


> 
> Alla: 
> > Why would Voldemort find Lily studying death worrisome? Because 
he 
> > may think that she is ahead of him in his immortality quest or 
> > something like that and him killing her will not work? I am still 
> > not sure why he would not try though? He certainly tries to kill 
> > Dumbledore in the battle of MoM, no? <snip> > I don't know it just
> > does not make sense to me that even if Voldemort WAS afraid of 
> > Lily or whatever she was studying of a great deal that he would 
> > not TRY to kill her. IMO of course. Questions, questions.


> Jen: For one thing, at the time of Lily's death Voldemort did not 
> know if his experiements in immortality would work. By the time he 
> faced Dumbledore in the MOM, he had proved to himself his horcruxes 
> were working and believed himself immortal. But that night at GH, 
> facing two powerful wizards who have defied him three times, he 
> doesn't know. And I think if Lily did study in the Veil room, that 
> would be something Voldemort couldn't understand since he's spent 
> his life attempting to defeat death.
> 
> So I pictured the momentary worry or slight fear to be about his 
own 
> immortality experiements and perhaps a wonder if Lily knew 
something 
> he didn't. Maybe even something which would interfere with his 
> experiments? He knows the Potters are in league with Dumbledore and 
> are in hiding, so it's possible he thought there was more to their 
> protections than he was aware. It was only enough to make him 
pause, 
> whatever the reason, so it wouldn't be something he felt resolved 
> about. I do like other people's suggestions that Voldemort wanted 
> something from Lily, some knowledge, and planned to extract that 
> after killing Harry.  

Julie:
This theory is interesting but I do have one problem with it. If 
Voldemort had reason to worry or slightly fear that Lily might have 
some unknown protection, why not either kill her quickly, or perform 
some other spell that gets her out of the way without actually 
killing her (thus avoiding any unknown protection she might have 
learned in the Veil room? Why play around at all by offering her her 
life in such a glib manner? And if he wanted to extract some 
information from her, why kill her at all? Why not just petrify her 
or use some other binding spell, take care of Harry, then return to 
Lily and force the information he wants out of her as he did with 
Bertha Jorkins?

Also, should we perhaps be focusing on why James *had* to die? (Kind 
of like "Why Voldemort didn't die, rather than why Harry lived?") Was 
it simply because James attacked immediately while Lily ran to Harry 
to protect him? Or did LV always intend to kill James? Perhaps the 
answer would help us understand why Lily didn't have to die. 

It's a thought anyway ;-)

Julie