[HPforGrownups] Mean is not abusive; Dudley; teaching; conservatism

[Corey Overton]

No: HPFGUIDX 145815

Betsy Hp:
Honestly, you can pull up example after example of Snape behaving badly.  But, as Miles has said, being a scary, badly behaved, unfair teacher is not abuse.

Alla:
Yes, but if you interpret those examples as abuse, then they are.

Miles:
I described Harry's reactions to *real* abuse by Umbridge, and 
this is totally different to his reactions to Snape. 

BAW:
Interesting that many of the people who seem to be most harshly 
critical of Snape's behavior towards Harry haven't said 'boo' 
about Umbridge.  Even if we concede--which I do not for a moment
--that Snape is an abuser, Umbridge is far worse.  

Lupinlore:
I'm afraid trying to impose definitions, or even reach them by consensus, isn't going to work.  It has never worked with the Dursleys, and I seriously doubt, in fact I'm certain, it will never work with Snape and his abusive behavior.

BAW:
What abusive behavior?  Mean, yes. Unfair, yes.  Harsh, yes.  
I have yet to see any time when he was abusive.  Umbridge was 
abusive; the Dursleys were abusive. 
<snip>  Snape is a meanie; however, it takes a great deal 
more than being a meanie to be an abuser.



Corey:
People, I think you all are missing a point of real abuse.  How come no one for the life of me has cited what Gaunt did to poor Merope? I've only heard 1 list member agree with me on this topic. As
far as Umbridge goes, well she's just flat evil. That quill of hers left ever lasting damage that Harry will neve get rid of. Yes, Snape is mean, unfair, and very sarcastic. But he gets the point across. IMO Neville is not afraid of Snape anymore. In HBP he doesn't come in contact with Neville that I can remember. 

Well hope that brought us to the larger point. 
Your fellow list member, Corey