"Stand aside, girl" and the End

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jan 3 19:40:51 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 145816

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "P J" <midnightowl6 at h...> wrote:
>
 
> PJ:
> 
> Well, since Peter was the first to find Voldermort after escaping the 
> Shrieking Shack, I believe he was able to give LV much more than even Bertha 
> Jorgenson on a wide range of things that had happened since GH.  He'd have 
> been present for family discussions and possibly even Order meetings!  Who 
> watches what they say in front of their pets?
> 
> Oddly enough though, none of the adults in the WW so much as mention this 
> potential disaster.
>

Pippin:
The Weasleys weren't members of the Order in VW I. That brings up an 
interesting point. If Peter was always intending to scamper back to Voldemort
when Voldemort grew strong again, why didn't he pick an Order family to
spy on?  He might have feared running into Lupin, I suppose, but in that 
case wouldn't he have abandoned Ron as soon as Lupin showed up in PoA?

Kchuplis:
Wow. Evil!Lupin. I certainly hope not. That would be a rather deflating and
unfair thing to readers since nothing has ever pointed in that direction.

Pippin:
<veg> Nothing except:

Peter's stellar incompetence as a spy (see above)

Sirius's suspicion that Lupin was the spy


Lupin's long, long history of putting his own interests and his loyalty to
his peer group ahead of his allegiance to  authority or his conscience

his admission that this was cowardice

his identification of the werewolves as his "equals" 

his grievance against Umbridge 

the intractable nature of the werewolf problem

his withholding of information about Sirius, the Map, and his knowledge
of an unguarded entrance into the castle from Dumbledore

his attempt to kill Peter in cold blood

his transformation just in time to help Peter escape before
he could be questioned by Dumbledore

Fenrir Greyback's ability to predict the time of his transformations
well enough that he can position himself to attack  specific victims
(HBP ch 16)

Lupin's ability to hide his thoughts from Snape

His  ability to tell what Harry and Sirius are thinking

His ability to perform wandless and non-verbal magic

His position just between Sirius and Harry at the moment when
Sirius, ducking while on the dais, was struck "squarely in the chest"
by a spell which must therefore have come from  below and directly in
front of Sirius

Bella claiming credit only for fighting Sirius, not killing him,
though we know from HBP that Voldemort  did want him dead

The existence of an unidentified Death Eater who "sent" the
Lestranges to attack the Longbottoms per JKR's website.
Bella would not take orders from Snape or Peter. JKR says all 
the major characters have been introduced. So who was it?

Lupin is strangely like Quirrell -- always nearby or unaccounted for
when something disastrous happens, and yet seemingly uninvolved.
But he has motive, method and opportunity, and his history 
resembles very much that of real life radicals who get a liberal 
education courtesy of the ruling class, only to find that they are not
equally welcome in the avenues of power or commerce. That 
situation has produced a lot more suicide bombers than Gandhis,
unfortunately.


Pippin







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