Musings and a Query: Harry's Heart and Fate...

[Amanda Shoffner]

No: HPFGUIDX 145843

    Maureen wrote:
> I have never considered the fact that Harry would not be the
> one to kill LV. 
  
Miles:
> My impression is, that no one will actually kill LV. He will 
> be dead in the end, but I do not see anyone casting an Avada 
> Kedavra on him (especially not Harry).
>
> But we should recall the prophecy:
>
> "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches. 
> (...) and either must die at the hand of the other for neither 
> can live while the other survives" (OotP, ch 37)...
> Many people tend to read that The Chosen will kill Voldemort 
> or the other way round. But that's not what it says. First, 
> the word "kill" is not in the prophecy. LV or Harry will die, 
> because they cannot live when the other survives. But it says 
> "either must die at the hand of the other", and this can 
> become true in many ways, literally, or figuratively. Another 
> interesting word is "vanquish", the prophecy does not speak 
> of "to kill". Again the call for native speakers, but if I 
> read my dictionaries correctly, then the usage of "to vanquish" 
> is connected to power, to mastery, to overcoming, and not so 
> much to killing or wiping out.

   
  Amanda:

Miles, I agree with your thoughts strongly. IMO, I have thoughts 
as to whether LV did the AK on Harry when he was a baby, or 
"marked him as an equal" by making Harry a horcrux. I had this 
thought when thinking of how HP has dreams of what LV is doing, 
his 'mark' hurts when LV has strong emotions. Their wands are of 
the same feather. If Harry succeeds in finding all horcruxes and 
is indeed the last horcrux, if he dies, LV dies. LV wants to kill 
HP, and he would not want to harm any of his horcrux's unless he 
was so full of himself to think that all others were safe and 
that nobody would realize LV even had any. With that in mind, he 
may be under the impression that he could spare the one placed in 
HP...again, all an IMO.
   
Then again, as I agree you pointing out, OotP, Ch 37: "One can 
not live while the other survives". This states *One* can not 
live while the other survives, we know the LV can't stand the 
fact that HP is alive because it caused his downfall, and so 
wants to kill HP. So if read literal, and LV is the one who can't 
survive with HP alive, then Harry *can* survive with the idea 
that LV is still alive, as long as LV's 'powers' were not a 
threat to anyone anymore.
   
Two completely different theories as to the meaning of the 
prophecy, let me know what you think.
   
IMO, I think the connection with LV and HP may get a lot stronger 
than perceived.
   
  Amanda