First potions lesson/Harry getting special treatment

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 4 22:26:30 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 145911

> Betsy Hp:
> Um... Snape is a potions teacher asking potions questions in a 
> potions class.  But you're suggesting Snape doesn't have a right to 
> ask *any* questions?  Seems a bit extreme, IMO. <g>

Alla:

I am suggesting that Snape should not ask any questions till he 
actually assigned any books to read. Does not seem that extreme to me 
at all. IMO of course

 
> > >>Potioncat:
> > <snip>
> > Is it a good way to start off teaching 11 year old kids. Nope.
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> Unless you're a demanding teacher expecting high results.  And, as 
> canon shows, Snape is both.  And he succeeds in his mission.  I'm 
> betting Snape starts out all of his first year classes with that 
> particular speech and some "impossible to answer" questions.  

Alla:

Snape succeeds in his mission to make Harry mistrust him, that is 
true and if we were shown ANY proof that this is his usual first 
years speech and questions, my reaction to that would have been 
different. For now, as I said I picture Snape barking at Harry as 
vicious dog for the only reason of Harry looking like James. Could I 
be wrong? Sure, maybe Snape had other reasons, but with every book it 
seems to me that maybe it is all indeed about Snape grudge as 
motivating reason for his actions. "You and your filthy father" 
indeed. IMO of course.


> Betsy Hp:
> For me, it's a timing issue.  The trio had defeated Voldemort 
(well, 
> not really, but we'll go with the propaganda <g>) at least three 
> days ago. 

Alla:

Not really? OK, they defeated Quirrell who had Voldemort in the back 
on his head and that made Voldemort dissappear again

Betsy:
<SNIP>
 > Dumbledore didn't just reward Gryffindor, he punished Slytherin.  
It 
> was an odd choice, and it never sat well with me. (Personally, I 
> think he's trying to make up for the Norbert incident, and it does 
> win Harry back into Gryffindor's good graces, but at what cost?)

Alla:

Again, he awarded well deserved points. It may not have sit well with 
Slytherin pride, but the point was made Gryffindor gets special 
tretment here. To me special means undeserved, unless you argue that 
Trio did not deserve those points, I don't see any special treatment 
here.

As to why awarding during the Feast. well, why not? They behaved like 
Heroes and IMO School should honor their heroes.


 
> > >>Alla:
> > <snip>
> > I have no doubt that Dumbledore loves Harry now, but I disagree   
> > that he got preferential treatment from him in school.
> > <snip>
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> Yes, because Dumbledore routinely hands out invisibility cloaks to 
> students, and makes sure to quietly return them when the student 
> looses them while breaking school rules.  Doesn't every headmaster? 
> <g>

Alla:

Harry's father left the cloak with Dumbledore. I think that 
Dumbledore would give back the possession which was left in his care 
to any student. IMO of course.

JMO,

Alla
 








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