Ginny in HBP and a little SHIP Harry/Ginny WAS: Re: First potions lesson

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> >>Magpie:
> > God I hated that scene.  I think I dropped the book in          
> > annoyance.  
> > <snip>

> >>kchuplis: 
> You know, I just don't get why some people even read this series   
> if such things annoy them let alone spend any amount of time      
> talking about them. You *hated* that scene? I didn't feel that any 
> of the Harry and Ginny stuff was heavily over shadowed. I guess   
> I'm just dimwitted or something. I hear people yelling about how   
> it came out of nowhere as well as now you saying it was all so     
> heavy handed and I have to wonder if I am reading the same series 
> as everyone else. It's interesting because as I said I thought    
> that little connector was particularly well done.

Betsy Hp:
Speaking for myself, I ain't reading it for the romance. <g>  
Frankly, I think JKR places very little importance on the romance 
aspect of the story and when she writes about it, prefers to do so 
in a comedic way.  (The Bill/Fluer and Ron/Lavender romances were 
much more realistic and interesting to my mind, and they read like 
they'd been written more naturally, IMO.)

I don't think Harry/Ginny came out of nowhere.  That particular 
coupling has been brewing from the very first book.  Now I do think 
this particular version of *Ginny* came out of nowhere.  So while I 
enjoyed their first kiss I didn't much enjoy Ginny.  A bit too 
spunky, sparkley, "pretty little princess in combat boots" for me.

> >>kchuplis: 
> I don't see Ginny as the most amazing girl in the world. Spunky,   
> yes.  Witty, yes. A decent athlete. What is so "amazing" about    
> her? She just seems fun.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Oh, yeah, Ginny is superfun!  Life of the party!  Soul of the 
quidditch team!  Righter of wrongs!  Scurge of that ass-hat, Zach 
Smith! (Damn him and his questions!)  Favorite of Slughorn!  Darling 
of the twins!  And just to cement her super-cool status -- itty 
bitty sister from hell to Ron.  

> >>kchuplis: 
> Was she supposed to be a complete dweeb?

Betsy Hp:
A flaw or two might have been nice.  An acknowledged flaw, anyway.  
She does have an enormous chip on her shoulder and can go from quiet 
to raging fury in sixty seconds, but I get the sense that's supposed 
to be a plus in JKR's eyes.  (If it's a left over Voldemort piece 
and it turns out her personality changes were from her brush with a 
horcrux I will take everything I said about her and JKR's handling 
of her back.  I will also be thrilled beyond measure.  But I fear 
this will not happen.)

> >>kchuplis: 
> What was the "change"?? I have now read these books three times    
> and I do not see this huge character discrepancy some of you refer 
> to.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
She goes from ho-hum about quidditch in GoF to super quidditch 
genius.  She goes from amused from afar by the twins to more twin 
than the twins.  And she goes from loving Ron to hating him.  I've 
catalogued all this before here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/144816

I know not everyone agrees that Ginny was handled badly, but those 
of who do think she was aren't basing it on nothing.

Betsy Hp