Lupin Tonks/Draco/LV's wand

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 146048

Kchuplis:
*(snipping relationships list*
> Still, it isn't just pure love, but unconditional love that 
sacrifices that is so powerful in 
> DD's eyes and so negligeable in LV's.  Snape while in DE mode even 
hints at it when 
> he tells Tonks her new patronus is "weak". By the end of HBP we 
realize that he means 
> "ohhhh...you changed your patronus to resemble HIM. She's in 
luuuuuurve with a 
> werewolf ... How noble...how weak". His comment makes no sense any 
other way. 
> "People who wear their hearts on their sleeves..." 
> 
> Could it be that all this "shipping" IS important for book 7? As 
LV's leadership 
> cultivates arguments and distrust, DD's cultivates love. Which 
environment 
> encourages growth and, as a by product, strength? After all, we 
expend a LOT more 
> effort on behalf of those we love and just try to forget those we 
hate. I can't form a 
> more exact thesis than this right now, but somehow, I don't think 
that all this was 
> just for romantic interest on a novelists part.
*(snip)*

Ceridwen:
You mention the difference between Dumbledore's thoughts on love, and 
LV's, and gave examples of healthy love (no matter what one thinks 
about the particular pairings themselves).  But I think you have a 
good idea going, and will try to expand.

Bellatrix is married.  Yet her entire focus is on LV.  It's almost as 
if she's more in love with him than with her husband, who remains a 
blurry presence at the outskirts of her life for readers.  This isn't 
healthy.  I would mistrust anything or anyone who deliberately 
stepped between husband and wife.  LV has come across as the sort of 
person who expects to be held in higher esteem by his followers than 
their families.  Definitely destructive.

Narcissa fleeing to Snape to save Draco.  Why does she have to sneak 
around?  Because LV would see it as betrayal that she loves ***her 
own son*** enough to defy him.  LV isn't the center of her universe.  
He doesn't like that.  At all.  It shows a lack of control.  His, 
over the Malfoys.

And Bellatrix again, saying she would be honored to sacrifice her 
nonexistent children for LV.  !!!  Barty Crouch jr killing his own 
father, and before then, defying him to join LV and fanatically carry 
out LV's missions.  Degrading his mother's sacrifice in order to 
return to LV.  What we see with the DEs we have knowledge of, is 
dysfunctional fanaticism which translates to an unhealthy love of LV 
which is higher than their love of family.  Not that it's real love, 
it's more of an extreme devotion.  But in the basest, most disgusting 
sense, it's a sort of love.

That's why LV uses Draco to get back at the Malfoys.  Because to him, 
Draco is the *thing* standing in the way of their complete devotion.  
He destroys healthy love.  He expects his people to give it up in 
order to serve him.  He is the antithesis of Dumbledore and Harry, 
the bane of True Love.

Ceridwen.