last minute points was Re: First potions lesson/Harry getting special treatment

[annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 146057

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at m...>
wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at y...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Valky wrote:
> snip
>  Gryffindor lost 150 points that was
> > > rightfully earned because Draco deliberately schemed to ensure that
> > > they did lose those points. <snip>
> > 
> > Carol responds:
>  He was simply restoring
> > the points that Draco had caused Gryffindor to lose. (Then again,
> > Draco lost points for Slytherin, too, so maybe it's not quite as fair
> > as it seems.)
> 
> 
> Potioncat:
> I'm going to look at this a slightly different way. Gryffindor lost 150 
> points because McGonagall thought they were out of bounds late at night 
> and playing a trick on Draco. They were really out of bounds to help 
> Hagrid and Norbert. 
> 
> I'm going to speculate, that by the time of the feast, (If not sooner) 
> DD knows all about the dragon. I think his awarding points for courage 
> also counters the points they lost while doing a good deed. Not 
> that "Draco caused them to lose points, so I'll repay the kids" but 
> rather "The kids lost points while doing a good deed, and I will repay 
> them now."  Although the 150 and 10 points were certainly earned. He 
> would most likely think they deserved points for helping Hagrid in such 
> a courageous way...but certainly could not reward them for it.
>


Annemehr:
Oh, I don't know if I like that. I think Harry & co. deserved to lose
the points for trying to do a good thing in the wrong way.  They knew
the dragon had to go and they knew Draco knew about it and would try
to make trouble.  They believed that their telling Dumbledore would be
the same thing as Draco snitching.  Heck, they even knew that Draco
borrowed Ron's textbook that had Charlie's note giving the time and
place in it.  IMO, even if McGonagall knew the true story, she'd still
be right to dock them (though I'm not betting that she actually would
have).

This makes a contrast to the points the Trio won in the end for
breaking the after-hours rule *and* the third floor corridor rule with
good reason.  It's not that DD was righting an injustice here, it's
that the trio had redeemed themselves and made up what they themselves
had lost before.  It's even more ironic if we believe that, left to
himself, LV would never have got the Stone out of the Mirror, because
in that case, the Trio earned the points for doing the *wrong* thing
for the right reasons.

Annemehr