Draco & Unforgivables; Krum?; Inflated Aunt vs. Sectumsempera; Sir; Dursleys

[bawilson at citynet.net]

No: HPFGUIDX 146152

skatinglibrarian:
"As for the events on the Astronomy Tower, has Dumbledore 
forced Snape to kill him when it is obvious that Draco has 
failed? Did Dumbedore wish to ensure that 1. Snape won't 
break the vow with Narcissa and die himself and 2. Draco, 
still a student, won't use an Unforgivable curse."

IMHO, I think #2.  Dumbledore was the Headmaster of all of 
Hogwarts, even Slytherin.  

The Unforgivables are that not so much because of what they do 
to the victim as because of what they do to the caster.  We 
know that in order to successfully cast 'crucio' on a person, 
one must really hate him or her, and really enjoy seeing him/her 
suffer; Avanda Kervada can only be used for murder--not 
manslaughter or justifiable homicide, but murder, 'intentionally 
and with malice aforethought killing a human being.'  We may 
conclude that Imperius also means that one must enjoy dominating 
and controlling a person.  Getting oneself into the mental state 
necessary for these curses surely causes spiritual damage.


catlady:
"In this case, 'about' isn't good enough. Snape was in the same 
year as James and Lily. James and Lily were 20 according to the 
Lexicon (or 22 according to me) when Harry was born. Viktor is 
18 at the beginning of GoF (per Ron) when Harry has just turned 
14, so Viktor is 4 to 5 years older than Harry. Snape became a 
father when he was 15 or 16 years old?"

Perfectly possible.  I've known it to happen.  It is possible the 
the man whom Harry identifies as Viktor's father is really his 
stepfather; that they have similar noses is not surprising---Mrs. 
Krum may like men with hooked noses.  


Ceridwen:
"But, kchuplis brought up two scenarios: Blowing up Aunt Marge, 
and slashing Draco.  His reaction to the Aunt Marge episode, 
though not as horrible as the Draco episode, got more worry out 
of him than slashing Draco so that the bathroom was awash in 
blood.  That's disturbing.  Aunt Marge floats away, the Ministry 
rearranges memories, Harry's given a slap on the wrist and not 
kicked out of the WW, Aunt Marge is fine if lacking a memory 
(unfortunately, the WW didn't see fit to give her a personality 
change as well!), and that *seems* to carry more weight than 
buckets of blood?"

Aunt Marge was just expressing her opinion--as ill-informed and 
prejudiced as it was, she had a right to it.  Draco was 
attempting to cast the Cruciatus Curse on him; Harry had every 
right to defend himself.


Scarfyrre:
"Ms. Rowling is doing a great job conveying exactly how teenagers 
acted in school, and it seems the Brits are very similiar to the 
Yanks.  Except we never called our teachers 'sir' or 'professor'."

You didn't call your teachers 'sir' or 'ma'am'?  I did.


CH3ed:
"<snip> The conditions of the protection; tho, has me wondered 
that if LV knew of the terms, why hasn't he tried to assassinate 
Petunia? If she goes, then so should go Harry's protection at 
the Dursley House. Without a living blood relative of Lily to 
reside with Harry hasn't got that protection. Tho there may be 
other protections yet that DD conjured up but hadn't told Harry 
(and us) yet."

If something were to happen to Aunt Petunia, the source of the 
protection would move to Dudley.

I still think that the 'person who does magic late in life' will 
be Uncle Vernon, if only because it would be such a kick in the 
pants for him.

BAW