[HPforGrownups] Half blood prince disappointing

Bee Chase luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca
Thu Jan 12 00:32:54 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 146280



Harry Flashman <harold.flashman at gmail.com> wrote:    What a disappointing book! I think JKR spent to many pages on unneeded
details. I mean did we need page after page watching how harry
convinced Slughorn to come back to Hogwarts? Could not dumbledore
simply have introduced Slughorn and then later told harry that the
reason he (DD) suspects that slughorn took the job was so that he
could add harry to his club?

Often I got the impression that JKR was simply trying to fill pages.
So much more plot could have been developed and loose ends started to
be tied. I can't see how the final book in the series can be any less
than a 1000 pages with all the loose ends that need to be tied in
order to properly close the plots and bring the series to a
satisfactory end.

Harry's training with DD could have been more than just learning about
Voldemorts horcruxes. In the cave DD tells harry that magic always
leaves traces yet does not tell harry how to spot such traces, even
though it is expected that harry will go in search of other horcruxes.
DD does not impart any special wisdom/knowledge that Harry will need
to overcome the immensely powerful defenses that Voldemort has put
around his horcruxes, or help harry form relationships with other
intelligent magical creatures who clearly respect DD and whose help
Harry might need. Almost as if DD simply left harry to fend for
himself, and unless DD is not really dead and will return in the next
book to lead harry to the remaining horcruxes and train him to
successfully fight (and kill) Voldemort, Harry will have a learn a lot
himself and awfully fast.

One other thing that occurred to me is that while Harry has survived
Voldemort on several occasions, surviving and killing are 2 very
different things. Harry needs to kill Voldemort but clearly does not
have the skill (at least at the end of HBP) to do so. 

Here is a way in which Harry might kill Voldemort: The 2 meet face to
face and after a brief duel, Voldemort disarms Harry and tries to take
over his mind, but because Harry's mind is so full of love despite the
loss of so many people he loves (and who loved him) Voldemort cannot
take the experience and is expelled from harry's mind in a greatly
weakened form, and Harry is able to either kill, or disable Voldemort
before he recovers his strength. Of course all this will happen after
all the Horcruxes have been tracked down and destroyed. 

Anyway the next book will have to have a lot more action, and plot
development than HBP had. 

Luckdragon:
  I did not snip as I wanted to address the lot.
  Firstly as an avid HP fan the more details the better as far as I'm concerned and I think Harry's interaction with Slughorn was very important in showing how Harry is able to win over possibly important allies who may aid him in his quest. Harry does not have to threaten, lie, or cajole people to do things; it is his honestly and simplicity, and connection to  his parents and the premature death they endured for him that makes good people do the right thing. 
  As for DD having made poor use of his sessions with Harry, I do not think Harry's magical ability will play as much of a role in defeating LV as people may think. Yes he will require a good amount of defensive ability, but I believe his friends, supporters, and willingness to sacrifice will be of much more importance. Whenever Harry has had to battle LV it was not so much his magical ability that got him through as his friends, his loyalty, his faith, and his determination.
  As for Killing LV, I do not believe Harry will have to commit murder. The prophecy said "Vanquish", not kill. There is a possibility Harry with the help of his supporters will find a way to destroy LV without killing him. LV wants power; a person is only as powerful as his supporters make him. If LV's supporters were to abandon him and everyone turned against him, then he could be defeated. Also as LV has willingly given up pieces of his soul and those pieces are destroyed is it really murder? 
   
  

 


		
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