Nagini

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No: HPFGUIDX 146299

MML wrote:
" It occurred to me that the differences in the way JKR
portrays the snake in book 1 compared to the snake in Books 5 and 6 
(ie Nagini) serves to highlight the darker nature of the later 
books." <snip>

CH3ed:
Good point. The first 2 books do read more like children literature 
than the later books. I remember the news anchor mentioning that JKR 
wrote the books for children to grow up with (so the kids starts 
with PS/SS and then read the next book every year for 7 year). I 
don't know if that is really what JKR intended, but it fits to me. 
If I had started out reading PS/SS I might have been less inclined 
to read the whole thing since I'm older. Instead the first book I 
read was PoA.

I was thinking about the bad effects of making something with a mind 
of its own a horcrux and wonder.... what is the likelihood of Nagini 
turning against Voldy in the end? What if Nagini is the last Horcrux 
left and she bites Voldy?... and then is killed by Harry? That 
wouldn't violate the prophecy since Voldy's body would die from the 
venom, and then really die for good at the hand of Harry when Harry 
kills Nagini (I'm assuming that Nagini's venom is not toxic to Voldy 
when taken orally, but just as lethal to him when injected into the 
blood stream).


SSSusan wrote: (on the other Nagini thread)
Hee.  I know you didn't mean it this way, but when I read the 
sentence "Couldn't LV have used L. Malfoy instead?," I admit that my 
mind thought you meant couldn't LV have **possessed* Lucius instead 
of Nagini.  So I had this visual image of Voldy-in-Lucius, making 
him do all kinds of stuff like a puppeteer, and of its shortening 
Lucius' life.  As if Nagini is more valuable to Voldy in the end, 
and he'd surely want to preserve the length of her life over 
Lucius's. <g>
Siriusly Snapey Susan, submitting a totally worthless post, but 
hey....


CH3ed:
<g> Oy, that would really be some scene, ay? :O) It definitely is a 
lot more fun than just ordering Lucius to snoop around. I wonder if 
Narcissa will protest.  ;O)
 

Carol wrote in Nagini as a Horcrux thread:
 "Harry (seeing from the snake's POV in his vision) thinks her 
thoughts as well as Voldemort's. The thoughts have merged into a 
single entity--Nagini doesn't distinguish betwwen her own desires 
and Voldemort's--but she still senses a conflict between her desire 
to bite and her actual mission, which relates to the Prophecy orb in 
the Department of Mysteries. (I'm sure this dual nature is what DD 
is referring to as "in essence divided"--one body, two natures or 
selves.)" <SNIP>


CH3ed:
I thought that the conflict between the desire to bite and the 
desire to just get thru the door was between LV/Nagini and Harry, 
but I like Carol's read better. It does neatly explain that DD 
silver smoke experiment and his comment (which I never could figure 
out the meaning before). Thanks!!

CH3ed  :O)