Voldemort "intentionally" makes Harry a Horcrux?

[Richard]

No: HPFGUIDX 146344

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dobbyisdumbledore" 
<dobbyisdumbledore at y...> wrote:
>
> I know, I know...
> 
> Why would he "do that".
> 
> Well, because its BRILLIANT.
> 
> As far as Voldemort is concerned (through Snape's telling of a 
partial 
> phrophecy) Harry is the child that is destined to potentially stop 
him.
> 
> What better course of action (then) to attempt to 'cover all 
bases'?
> 
> By Killing James, Voldemort has the sufficent murder to create his 
> Horcrux. The Horcrux would then put on (into?) the baby Potter.
> 
> Voldemort would THEN attempt to kill Harry. If he kills him, he 
loses 
> 1 7th of his soul... but also rids himself of the phrophecy child. 
> This is a reasonable cost.
> 
> However, what 'if' something goes wrong? By putting a horcrux into 
the 
> being that was destined (potentiall) to stop him... Voldemort 
ENSURES 
> that he lives on (due to his Horcrux exsisting in the only person 
that 
> could stop him).
> 
> In such a fashion, Voldemort covers his bases. 
> 
> A.) Lose 1/7th of his soul but kill the child.
> B.) If something goes wrong and he (voldemort) "dies", and the 
child 
> lives, a part of Voldemort lives as long as the child does.
> 
> To Voldemort, this is the perfect solution to the phrophecy (the 
part 
> he knows anyhow.)
> 
> Now, what goes wrong that night?
> 
> Why does Voldemort "fail"? How is his killing curse "returned to 
> sender" (if you will).
> 
> As we now know, it is Severus Snape that delivered the details 
> (partially anyhow) to Voldemort.
> 
> I believe that he had an agenda in doing so, and his agenda (and 
an 
> accompanied deal struck with Voldemort) stemmed to be the Voldie's 
> downfall.
> 
> Many consider that Snape probably had a "thing" for Lilly.
> 
> How agonizing (remember what Slughorn says about obsessive love) 
to 
> see your most hated person (James) with the person you "love" 
(Lilly).
> 
> I believe that Snape gave Voldemort the information of the 
Prophecy 
> (Peter gives the location). But in so doing... made Voldemort take 
the 
> unbreakable vow that he would not harm Lilly.
> 
> In so doing, Severus rids the situation of James (and possibly the 
> child) while making sure Lilly is safe.
> 
> So what goes wrong? Voldmort (and followers?) go to Godric's 
Hallow 
> (the Potter's hiding place) and kills James (the murder sufficent 
for 
> creating the Horcrux. He then places the Horcrux in Harry.
> 
> He then prepares to use the killing curse on baby Harry. When he 
does 
> so, Lilly gets in the way of the killing curse (sacrifices herself 
out 
> of love for her child) and the result is that he kills her... but 
it 
> also rebounds or he simply "dies" as a result of a broken vow that 
> Voldemort has made to Snape. Becuase he promised that Lilly would 
NOT 
> be harmed, when she is (regardless of intent) killed, it has 
serious 
> impact for Voldemort. 
> 
> Remember that Voldemort tells Harry that "your mother needn't have 
> died". This would explain why that is. It would also (Dumbledore's 
> proclamation that Lilly's act of love protected Harry).
> 
> It would also explain Snape's changing of his ways. And why he was 
> heartbroken by what he had done.
> 
> 
> dobbyisdumbledore
>

Richard here:

There's a hole in your argument where you have Voldemort under an 
Unbreakable Vow not to harm Lilly, in that it would have meant that 
in explicitly killing Lilly (whom he gave the chance to step aside) 
would have invoked the Vow and thus death.  (A curious question is 
whether the Unbreakable Vow holds despite use of a horcrux.  Being a 
voluntary act, is it binding upon the severed fragments of the 
soul?)  Rather, Voldemort himself says he killed Lilly when she 
wouldn't step aside, and thus failed to kill Harry for having 
forgotten the "old" magic that sacrifice invoked.  Voldemort discuss 
this in some detail in the graveyard scene in GoF.

Also, I think it a stretch to think that Snape would be able to 
coerce Voldemort into agreeing to an Unbreakable Vow.  First, 
Voldemort would not suffer the indignity, nor the cheek from someone 
he viewed as a servant.  Second, I doubt that he would agree to 
anything the consequence of which, if violated, is death.  Third, I 
doubt that he would know for certain whether his horcruxes would 
protect him from the effects of the violating the Unbreakable Vow.

But that's all just my opinion ...

Richard, who think Voldemort is quite understandable, even if far 
more contemptible than understandable.