BloodBath in Book 7 Was Re:Who dies in 7?

quick_silver71 quick_silver71 at yahoo.ca
Fri Jan 13 06:26:53 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 146377

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "antoshachekhonte" 
<antoshachekhonte at y...> wrote:
>
> Jan:
> > 
> > I can't believe that the series will suddenly turn into a blood 
bath.
> > But I am sure that at least one major good guy (and some minor 
good
> > guys) will die. Too many, and it would lose all impact. None, 
and the
> > victory would be too easy.
> > 
> > The two major characters who have died so far, Sirius and 
Dumbledore
> > have both been father figures for Harry. I wonder if that theme 
will
> > continue. If so, Hagrid and Arthur Weasly have fulfilled an 
almost
> > parental role for Harry. Hagrid would be the saddest death, so 
I'd
> > place my bets there. 
> > 
> <big snip>
> > If I was at Hogwarts, I think I'd be popular with Sybill 
Trelawney. I
> > seem to have nominated just about everyone for death, including 
Harry
> > Potter! :-)
> > 
> 
> 
> Antosha:
> 
> I somehow doubt that this is going to turn into a Jacobean blood
> tragedy. We (that is, we modern folk) lack the world view to make 
that
> sort of story truly satisfying. What would be the point? It 
wouldn't
> be a whole lot better than ending the series by having LV cackling
> over Harry's corpse. Sure, you can end it that way, but why? Is 
that
> somehow supposed to be interesting?

I must differ in this view form most people in this group but I 
think that to a certain extent book 7 could (dare I say should) be a 
blood bath. Look at the end of HBP...a DE dies from a badly aimed 
curse (which is also revealing in that the caster wouldn't have been 
focused on killing one of their own). That death was totally random 
yet it showed, to me anyway, that this is going to be a dangerous 
conflict.

I'd also like to point out that the reader hasn't yet seen 
Voldemort, in all his power, among the common wizard. The only times 
we've actually seen Voldemort fight is against his equals (Harry and 
Dumbledore) so I personally hope that we, the reader, get to see the 
cat among the mice so to speak (Dumbledore got a scene like this 
when Fudge tried to arrest him). In fact I think that a lot of 
people in their discussion about the Weasley wedding could be 
overlooking something. Think about it...it's likely that a large 
number of Order members are going to attend; there'll be Ministry 
staff on hand, maybe even some Aurors for protection, and Harry 
Potter. If Voldemort wanted to send a message to the wizarding world 
I can't think of a better way then doing a little wedding crashing.

I'm also of the opinion that either the Ministry or the Order must 
be put out of commission before Harry's final victory. Unfortunately 
I lean towards the Order for several reasons. The Ministry simply 
isn't pro-Harry enough nor can I see Harry asking them for aid and 
the split seems to be semi-public knowledge which means the Order is 
really Harry's main support base. The Order seems relatively weak 
without Dumbledore to lead them and I have trouble finding another 
leader among the current ranks (I also believe that Voldemort's 
attacks on the Order have been focused on stripping away the 
leadership potential within it). 

Quick_Silver (thinking that most people will disagree)









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