The Strange Attitude of Voldemort on the Killing of Lily Potter

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No: HPFGUIDX 146389

>Bart
 >This is based on two not unreasonable assumptions:

>1) Voldemort fully expected Lily to take his offer.
>2) Voldemort had something to gain if she did.

>Given the theme of the power of love and Voldemort's rejection of 
>it, it would make literary sense if it was connected. Given this 
>logical house of cards (albeit pretty sturdy cards), what Voldemort 
>was looking to do was proving that love could be overcome, in this 
>case by fear of death.

Orna:
My favorite thoughts on this issue: Voldemort essence is conquering 
death, since death is believed to be the worst thing "in life". 
Harry's essence has to do with proving that love is the strongest 
power. 
Now, Voldemort with his offer for Lily was counting (and depending) 
on her to choose life over love. Voldemort needed this, because it 
meant:
1)	His striving for immortality is indeed striving for the 
greatest power possible – all others can be overcome – so every time 
he conquers a force- he is strengthened.
2)	If love can be overcome – by fear of death or by egocentric 
feelings – Merope's dying on his birth isn't such an insult for him. 
After all, the only thing which could have kept her alive could be 
love for him. She did stay alive until his birth, BTW, but she was 
ready to die, in spite of that meaning that he would be growing up 
as an orphan, in a muggle orphanage. 

Actually Merope is a person who Voldemort and Harry should have many 
difficulties in understanding – she doesn't mind to die – which for 
Voldemort looks the worst thing. And she hasn't got enough love to 
stay alive for her son – which for Harry looks incomprehensible. 

>Bart:
>I might go further to say that, if Lily took his offer, he would 
>have his hooks in her in some way, shape, or form (the 
>elusive "life debt"?).


Orna:
That would be a very ingenious and devilish life dept – since she 
would owe her life to him, and as well owe him her son's death. But 
it would prove that life-dept is more than love-dept if his hold on 
her worked. It looks like a reverse of what Merope did to him – 
giving Tom his life – and having his mother die. I don't know where 
it leads to, but it sounds interesting for further thoughts on it.

Orna