Harry's destruction of Voldie (Was: Voldie and the aging process)
justcarol67
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Fri Jan 13 19:37:31 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 146411
Carol earlier:
> <snipped> So Harry *will* have to kill or otherwise destroy LV, body
*and* soul, after he's destroyed the Horcruxes that keep LV's soul
from leaving the earth and passing beyond the Veil.
> >
> > Carol, noting that if Voldie could be defeated by old age, there'd
be no need for the Chosen One and we'd have no story
>
Deb responded:
> I agree that Harry must find some way to vanquish LV and destroy his
capacity to do magic and evil .... I am just not convinced Harry *has
to* kill him. One scenario might be ... Harry and friends destroy all
of the Horcruxes and then find a way to pursuade a Dementor to
administer *the Kiss* to LV. <snip>>
Hi, Deb. I agree that does not have to kill Voldemort, though I do
believe that Voldemort will die through Harry. Turning him into a
snake-faced Muggle (or Squib) would not be sufficient, nor would it
fulfill the Prophecy. My point in the post was that LV is not going to
die from old age or other natural causes, saving Harry the need for
destroying him. (How that scenario could be worked into Book 7 in any
case, I don't know.)
I did say "or otherwise destroy" to leave room for destroying Voldie
through the power of Love. I can't see Harry using a Dementor, a
symbol of evil in itself, to destroy Voldemort, though I admit it's
possible that JKR will go that route. I certainly don't think Harry
will use an AK, which is, after all, Unforgiveable and would undo
everything JKR has implied through Barty Crouch Sr. about what happens
when the opponents of evil adopt the weapons of evil. What I suspect
will happen is that Harry will use one of the powers acquired from
Voldemort when the AK backfired at Godric's Hollow to destroy
Voldemort. "He will mark him as his equal" to me suggests that in
giving Harry the scar ("mark"), Voldemort also transferred the power
or powers, rare among wizards and until GH almost peculiar to himself,
that can be used to destroy him. That's why Harry and only Harry can
defeat him, IMO. Harry has the power of Love from his mother's
sacrifice combined with highly unusual powers, including Parseltongue
(which I'm sure will come into play with Nagini), Legilimency (which
is shared by other wizards, including Snape, so it can't be *the*
deciding factor, though it may play a role), and, just possibly, the
power of possession, which Voldemort has tried and failed to use
against him and which Harry does not yet realize that he has. (What
better way to get the power of Love inside Voldemort than to use his
own power of possession against him?)
Somewhere I suggested (in a post I forgot to bookmark) that perhaps
Harry could possess Voldemort and force him through the Veil (after
destroying the Horcruxes, of course, so that Voldemort is actually
dead, like Sirius before him), and then use Sirius's body to step back
through the Veil. That way Harry would return Sirius's body to earth
so he can finally have a funeral service and a burial (foreshadowed by
his return of Cedric's body in GoF), and then slip back into his own
body, which is still on the dais outside the Veil, alive and
triumphant over evil.
At any rate, that scenario would fit the idea that Harry acquired some
of LV's *powers* without being a Horcrux (I don't see how he can be a
Horcrux, which would have to be destroyed, and still be alive to
destroy Voldie.) It would also fit the Prophecy and DD's remarks about
the power of Love, and (most important from my perspective), it would
not involve the corruption inherent in using an Unforgiveable Curse.
And it would explain why Sirius "had to die"--to foreshadow Voldie's
fate and give Harry the idea of sending Voldie through the Veil, and
to give Harry a means of escape from the Land of the Dead.
Carol, not believing for a moment that Deb is "mercenary and
ghoulish," though the Dementor scenario definitely qualifies as ghoulish
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