Cheating

Maria Vaerewijck maria8162001 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 14 14:02:57 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 146479

Jen:
> Voldemort knows Dumbledore will act as 'fools who love act.' 
> He wouldn't ever harm Draco, and more than that, he wants 
> Draco to make the right choice. <snip>

Ceridwen:
> A case of Voldemort knowing his enemy.  Dumbledore's weakness 
> is also his strength, his ability to act as 'fools who love 
> act'.  Dumbledore trusts the good side of people and the 
> higher human nature. <snip> 

> maria8162001:
> > If Draco fails, LV would have the reason to kill both Draco 
> > and Narcissa. But LV didn't count on Narcissa asking Snape's
> > help.
> 
> Jen: You don't think? I thought that visual of the flames 
> wrapping around Snape's wrists was pretty much vintage 
> Voldemort. I think Voldemort was well aware of what Narcissa 
> was up to and figured he would kill two birds with one stone--
> Dumbledore, and Snape's humanity, which he regained through 
> Dumbledore's trust. "The Dark Lord always knows!" said Bella 
> in OOTP. I don't think Snape's superb Occlumency was enough to 
> completely fool the greatest Legilimens and dark wizard of the 
> century, even if LV didn't get the entire picture. But Snape 
> was useful to him, placed at Hogwarts, and he used him for his
> own ends.

Ceridwen:
> <snip> And now, neither Snape nor Draco are useful.  LV might
> keep them around for window dressing, but they lost their 
> usefulness the minute they had to leave Hogwarts.  IMO, if 
> they go back to LV, they're treading on thin ice. <snip>


maria8162001:
Thanks for making it clear Jen. I actually didn't think about 
what Bella said that "the Dark Lord always knows." I only assumed 
that LV didn't count on Narcissa asking Snape's help is because,
(again I am assuming), LV expect his followers to do/act like him, 
never care for anybody except their own selves, not as 'fools who 
love act.'  

Again (this one is just my assumption), I don't think when Snape 
and Draco fled Hogwarts, that they went back to LV, I guess more 
that they are in hiding now together with Draco's mother. As 
Ceridwen put it so clearly that "they lost their usefulness the 
minute they leave Hogwarts." No matter how I dislike Snape in all 
the books, I, like Dumbledore, always believe on the good side of 
everyone even when sometimes it comes out as stupid.

I think when Snape killed Dumbledore (which I think was SS and 
DD's plan all along), Snape & Draco have to proceed to hiding 
place only DD and Snape knows. What do you think of this?

I have this assumption base on the things that happen in the 
funeral of DD, "White smoke spiralled into the air and made 
strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart stopping moment, 
that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next 
second the fire had vanished." I think that if that phoenix, 
Harry thought he saw isn't Dumbledore, then that is Dumbledore's 
patronus. And who could he be sending his patronus, except for 
Snape, that all is well and must proceed according to their plan. 
Just a thought. What do you think?
   
   
  maria8162001







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