Harry Vanquishing LV without killing him.

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 15 20:42:15 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 146503

> Geoff:
> Yes, but with respect, Shakespeare also gives us the other side of 
> the coin:
> 
> THIRD APPARITION: 
> ....
> Macbeth shall never vanquish'd be, until
> Great Birnam Wood, to high Dunsinane Hill
> Shall come against him. 
> (The Tragedy of Macbeth, Act IV, Scene I)
> 
> The way in which Shakespeare worked this prophecy out - as a bit 
of a 
> con - absolutely incensed J.R.R.Tolkien and was a factor in his 
> creation of the Ents.
> 
> An interesting point which crossed my mind when typing this quote 
was 
> the use of "vanquish'd"....
> 
> Familiar?
>
a_svirn:
Actually, that's what I meant when I said that the Prophesy was 
literal – that it was a bit of a con. Macbeth thought that "no man 
of woman born" meant *no one*, and since trees aren't capable moving 
and climbing hills the "Birnam Wood prophesy" meant *never*. Thus 
interpreting both prophesies metaphorically. Yet they were both very 
much literal – implied cesarean section and a bit of cover-up 
military action respectively. 









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