Tonks' patronus & Snape ignoring HP blood (was: CHAPDISC: HBP8)

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No: HPFGUIDX 146559

Sherry:
> > 6.  Why do you think Snape made these comments about her 
> > patronus?  

Alla:
> As to Snape's comments per se, I think that was another dig 
> at poor Remus, although have no idea why he would call Remus weak. 
> Because Remus cannot hold a job and ill once a month? 


SSSusan:
Exactly why I thought it made MORE sense when I read it the first 
time and thought Snape's dig was at *Sirius* (when I thought the 
patronus was a dog and represented Sirius).  That all made sense with 
their history and with Snape's general demeanor towards & attitude 
about Sirius.  

But Remus??  I mean, no, they're not friendly, but we never see Snape 
in Remus' face, taunting him or with wands drawn.  In fact, we know 
that he managed to set aside any old grudges enough to make the 
wolfsbane potion for him the year Remus was at Hogwarts.  So why 
the "weak" remark NOW?  Why insult Remus NOW?  Why say something so 
mean to Tonks?  Presumably he knew what her patronus' shape meant -- 
that she had feelings for Remus.  And if so, then making fun of it is 
extra-nasty.  It does seem to indicate a lack of warmth towards 
Tonks, doesn't it?  As well as a dig at Remus?

I just don't quite get where this came from... whereas when I thought 
it was a dog patronus representing Sirius, it "fit" better with what 
we know about Snape and Sirius.


Alla:
> What can I say? I don't need additional evidence that Snape enjoys 
> seeing Harry in emotional pain, I think books are full of such 
> examples, BUT this is IMO such a clear example that Snape enjoys 
> Harry being in physical pain, as long as he is not dying, IMO. 
> There WAS a lot of light, if Snape did not see it when they were in 
> the corridor, he had no way of not catching it when they were in 
> Great Hall. ...SO, we have a teacher seeing student with A LOT of 
> blood on his face and doing NOTHING about it. Hmmmm, curious, very 
> curious. Just reinforces my opinion that Snape is a sadist, really.

SSSusan:
It really is hard to avoid this interpretation, I think.  I mean, 
we've had this discussion a million times on HPfGU.  "Snape's 
sadistic!"/"No, he's just a tough teacher in the Britsh Boarding 
School mold!"/"But Jo Herself called him 'sadistic'!"  Yadda yadda 
yadda.  

On first thought, it's hard to imagine this as meaning anything else.

Then Pippin provided this thought:
>>>I'm sure Draco couldn't wait to tell his buds what he'd done to 
famous Harry Potter, and Snape had already heardl about it by the 
time he met Harry at the gate. But I wonder if anyone else believed 
Draco at first. Leaving blood on Harry's face for all to see would 
certainly lend credibility to Draco's story, and Snape would 
certainly think Harry deserved some embarrassment, to say the least, 
for having been so foolish.<<<

SSSusan again:
Now, I think that's a fascinating take.  STILL doesn't mean Snape 
wasn't just being sadistic, of course, but at least it goes a little 
further towards explaining what he might have been *thinking.*

Siriusly Snapey Susan