Merlin-DD - Dumbledore LIVES ...or NOT

[houyhnhnm102]

No: HPFGUIDX 146581


> > Potioncat:
> > The main reason I think DD is dead, dead as we know it, is that
> > I don't think JKR would kill someone in one book and have all 
> > the kiddies and adults wait years before finding out he's alive.
> > If she was going to do that, I think she would have completed it
> > in one book. ...
> > 
> 
> > 
> > maria8162001:
> >    
> >  We have to remember also that Dumbledore can make himself 
> > invisible without the invisibility cloak. ...edityed... What
> > if during that time he made himself invisible. 
> > ... Just a thought, still can't get over Dumbledore's death. I
> > need to re-read all the HP books again to see where DD cast a
> > spell without wand.

> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> When it comes to 'Dumbledore lives' theories, I can only ask one
> question ...WHY? 

houyhnhnm:

I haven't posted for awhile, but I have been thinking about
Dumbledore's death recently.  I have also been re-reading the books in
order; I'm up to the Quidditch World Cup in Goblet of Fire.  My
conclusion is that Rowling's genius is to make the reader believe in
plots that are as crazy as dreams.  I don't think I could have
predicted the action in the next book after reading the previous one,
even now with the advantage of knowing what happens in all of them (so
far).  

So, while I previously would have agreed with potioncat and bboyminn,
I am now starting to wonder if the conclusion of the Harry Potter saga
will not involve plot twists and turns which would seem completely
illogical if we heard of them in advance, but which Rowling will make
us believe in when the time comes.

With respect to Dumbledore's death, I accepted the fact that
Dumbledore was dead when I read HBP last summer.  I do think that
Snape acted, not out disloyalty, but out of necessity on the tower.  I
don't want to get back into all that again except to say that my
strongest reason for believing that was Dumbledore's pleading. 
Dumbledore could not plead for his own life after all the speeches he
made about death, especially when *Harry's* life was at stake. 
Therefore, DD's "Severus, please" had to be about something else.

Or.  It wasn't Dumbledore.  The idea has really been growing on me.
"And with the sudden agility of a much younger man, Dumbledore slid
from the boulder, landed in the sea, and began to swim with a perfect
breaststoke...."

Then there is all of DD's stange raving after drinking the potion. 
All kinds of hypotheses have been proposed, none completely convincing
to me, for why DD would hallucinate about being crucio'd.  But if it
was not Dumbledore, if it was someone who had been a DE, the ravings
make more sense.

The "Severus, please" takes on a whole other sense, then, if someone
was strong-armed into going along with the impersonation but balked at
extending the verisimitude to being AK'ed off the tower.

There was time to make the switch, when Dumbledore sent Harry out to
get his cloak.

Well whatever ends up happening in book 7, I'm sure that, however,
outrageous, readers will suspend disbelief one more time.